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White and King connection to Louisa County Virginia
(last updated: Aug 19, 2018)

Page made possible by:
Elizzbeth Edmonds & Deb Parks who
came upon the King/White connection while investigating
another King DNA connection & shared this with the White's



Note: This King/White connection is very important, as our White's have DNA
connections to Louisa/Hanover/New Kent Co VA.  And the fact the Thomas
King married a Tillah White of Louisa, whose father was a John White, who
we have DNA connections to via some of their descendants. And of course
our goal is to trace our White family to its early origins, this is another step..



White > King > White > Connection - (King's - White's of Louisa Co VA)
(Mary [Cooper/King] White > Lucy [King] Cooper > John King  > Thomas King > Tillah White King > John White Sr 1695-1758)

This Johm King's Migration path:  Hanover/Louisa Co VA, Unknowns?, Spartanburg Co SC, by or before 1790

White to King to White Connection

Robert White Sr 1743-1843

Robert White Jr 1784- 1880

John Willis White Sr 1832-1863 & wife Mary Cooper White

Mary Cooper White 1827-1887 wife of John Willis White Sr

James William Cooper Esq & wife Lucy King 1798-1877 parents of Mary

John King 1758-1842 (born Louisa Co VA) & wife Sarah Lemaster (of Spartanburg) parents of Lucy King Cooper

Thomas King Sr 1714-1798 (of Louisa Co VA) & 2nd wife Tillah White 1739-??? her Parents John Sr & Catherine White

Tillah White daughter of John White Sr. abt 1695-1758 of Hanover Co VA (created from New Kent Co [St Paul's Parish] VA)

Thomas King's Parents unknown at this time, Tillah's known father John White Sr
of New Kent/Louisa/Hanover Co VA, which our White's have a Y-DNA connection to some
of his descendants, but thus far, not a direct Y-DNA Connection, however, this John White carries some of our DNA.
We should mention that John Willis White's children would carry the John White of Hanover's DNA via the female, or mothers linage.

(Mike White owner of this Website, is the only male White
descendant of Robert White Sr to have taken the Y-DNA Test)
mike3113@hotmail.com
 


We already have documentations for the White's, below are documents
identifying John King and his father Thomas King's whose deed
list all of his children, by name and also wives.


 

John King (1758-1842)

Born: 12 Jan 1758 Louisa Co VA
Died: 25 Mar 1842 Spartanburg Co SC

Contributor: Betty Collier King

From "The Greenville Mountaineer" April 8, 1842

Mr. John King departed this life on March 25, 1842 at his residence near Rich Hill in Spartanburg District, having lived 84 years. The subject of this notice was born in Louisa County, Virginia, on January 12, 1758. He entered the list of his country's defenders in his 18th year, and attached himself to the Virginia Regiment. His fidelity, his patriotic devotion, and inflexible courage procured his removal from the Virginia Regiment to the highly responsible and honorable station of Life Guard to the great George Washington, in which capacity he served his country amidst all the varied scenes of that eventful period. He was the first to hail the approach of the immortal Frederick Steuben to the tent of Washington, and under the instruction of that great friend to freedom, received much of that skill which gave to his leaders so much confidence in him. In the memorable battles fought at Brandywine, Germantown, and Monmouth, he shared largely in the perils to which the friends of the Republic were exposed. He was sent with Lafayette through Virginia, and though his person was the special object of pursuit by the British, one of whose officers was heard to say, "the boy should not escape him", he nevertheless made good his escape, and the next intelligence the enemy had of John King, he was with Washington, dealing out destruction to the enemies of his country. He was oftern heard to regret that when Cornwallis delivered up his sword at Yorktown, he was prevented from participating in the joy of the occasion by severe illness which had well nigh cost him his life. Inasmuch as he had witnessed the reverses of his General, he always spoke of it as a great bereavement that he was prevented from witnessing his General's success at that moment.

Mr. King emigrated from Virginia to Spartanburg District where he has enjoyed the peace and quiet of domestic life for the last half century. He married Sarah Lemaster of Spartanburg District who still lives to regret for a season the absence of him with whom she has so long and so happily lived. He has left a large and very respectable family, all of whom sedulously imitate the virtues of their progenitor. Always unpretending in his disposition, Mr. King never asked for an office, but rather chose to gain his living as he had gained his liberties; by the sweat of his brow. Agriculture was his favorite pursuit, by which he earned a very comfortable competency. His whole life was characterized by an untiring fondness for perusing the Holy Scriptures, to which we can attribute his happy and peaceful departure from this world. Mr. King is perhaps the last one of the chosen band who shared so largely in the confidence of the great George Washington. A very large circle of friends attended the corpse of the venerable patriot to his final resting place.

John King (6), b. 12 Jan 1758 at Louisa Co, VA, d. 25 Mar 1842 at SC, bur. 25 Mar 1842 at Spartanburg District, SC

+Sarah LeMaster (91), b. 17 Sep 1774 at Amherst Co, VA, m. 02 Mar 1790 at Spartanburg District, SC, d. 01 Oct 1850 at Spartanburg Co., SC

├── Edmund King (92), b. 01 Dec 1790 at Spartansburg District, SC
│ +Nancy Emberson (93), m. 30 Jan 1830 at TN

├── William King (94), b. 19 Mar 1792
│ +Rhoda Smith (95), m. 1825

├── Mary King (96), b. 08 Mar 1794

├── Ann King (97), b. 07 Nov 1796

├── Lucy King (98), b. 15 Nov 1798
│ +James W. Cooper (99), m. 15 Dec 1816

├── Elizabeth King (100), b. 06 Sep 1800
│ +John Easly (101), m. 30 Jan 1823

├── Martha King (102), b. 20 Oct 1801
│ +John Gosset (113), m. 15 Dec 1830

├── Philip W. King (104), b. 22 Oct 1803
│ +Dolly Browning (105), m. 01 Aug 1829 at TN

├── Sarah King (106), b. 22 Jan 1806
│ +HIram White (107), m. 11 Nov 1828 at SC

├── son King (108), b. 06 Dec 1808, d. 1808

├── Margaret King (109), b. 02 Nov 1809
│ +David Reid (110), m. 11 Oct 1827

├── John Madison King (111), b. 28 Mar 1812
│ +Sarah Hammett (188), m. 01 Nov 1842 at SC
 

└── Minerva King (112), b. 25 May 1815, d. 05 Feb 1817
 

Thomas King (1714-1798)

Born: 1714
Died: 1798 Louisa Co VA

The Children of Thomas King:

We know the children of Thomas King with reasonable
certainty from the following deed showing the transfer
by his heirs of a majority of his land to his youngest
son, Benjamin.

"Deed Book I, Page 637 28 Dec 1798 Sackville King
& Ann (wife), William King &
Polly (wife), Thomas King, Elisha King & Judith
(wife), John King & Sarah (wife), Phillip King & Nancy
(wife), Margaret Telford & John (husband) Walter King
& Nancy (wife), Catherine King, Martha King, Elizabeth

King of Louisa of the one part and Benjamin King of
the other part, for �50 for 263 acres on both sides
of Pamunkey River and joining land of James Winston,
George Haywood on one side of the river, and John
Ambler and John Powell on the other side "

Notes:
There were 12 children, 8 boys and 4 girls, born over
a period of about 20 years. They are presumably
listed in the deed by age in descending order:

Sackville
William
Thomas, Jr.
Elisha
John
Phillip
Margaret
Walter
Catherine
Martha
Elizabeth
Benjamin

Sackville was born about 1748 and his mother must have
been Sarah although we have no record of it.
Sackville at one point owned an "Ordinary" in Louisa,
the term then used for what we would call a roadside
tavern or pub, a place of meeting, drinking, eating
and (probably) sleeping for travelers. He also became
an officer in the revolutionary army. He married Ann
Payne. He and Ann subsequently moved westward in
Virginia to Fluvanna and then Campbell County.

William was born about 1750 and his mother was also
probably Sarah. He also served in the army. He
married Mary (Polly) Woodson and subsequently moved to
Campbell County, Virginia. He and/or his descendants
may have eventually ended up in Monroe County,
Alabama.

Thomas, Junior, we know little of at this time, but
would place his birth at about 1752. The deed above
suggests that he was unmarried. His will suggests
that he remained in Louisa County all of his life. As
of yet no military record has been found.

Elisha was born in 1753 (from Tina Hall's website) and
served as an officer in the Continental line for three
years. He married Judith (?). He received a large
land grant in Ohio for his service and may have
migrated there.

John was born in 1758. He served in George
Washington's personal guard (Life Guard). He married
Sarah LeMaster in Spartanburg, South Carolina, and
remained there.

Phillip was born in 1760 and also served in the
Continental army. He was taken prisoner and escaped.
He married Nancy Woodson. They eventually went to
Tennessee.

Margaret King, presumably born about 1762, married
John Telford and lived in Virginia.

Walter was born about 1764 in Louisa County. He
married Nancy Sevier and lived in Tennessee.

Catherine, Martha and Elizabeth have no information
available. At least one, Catherine, was probably born
next, about 1766, and Martha and Elizabeth may have
been born before or after Benjamin.

Benjamin was the youngest son, born September 11,
1767, in Louisa County, Virginia. Benjamin was too
young to have served in the Revolutionary War. He
married Martha Haywood, became a Methodist Episcopal
minister and in 1803 moved west to Jefferson County,
Kentucky. In 1808 they moved to Posey Township,
Harrison County, Indiana, where he lived the rest of
his life.

The five-year gap between the birth of Elisha and John
precedes the year 1758 when we know that Thomas was
married to Tillah White. Quite possibly during this
time Thomas lost his first wife, Sarah.

One must also consider his slaves as members of Thomas
King's family. He had at various times over the years
from three to five slaves named Ned, Cupid, Nan,
James, Peter, and Harry.
[from: Louisa County, Virginia. Tithables and Census,
1743-1785. Edited and Compiled by Rosalie Edith
Davis, Manchester, Missouri, 1988.]

Nothing more is known of the slaves than the listing
of their names. No doubt they also had families but
only the names of slaves over 16 were recorded. There
is no mention of them in the deed transferring
Meadowood to Benjamin. One cannot help but think, in
view of Benjamin becoming a minister and eventually
settling in the Northwest Territory, that he rejected
slavery. The Northwest Ordinance, passed by Congress
in 1787, created the Northwest Territory as a
slave-free territory in the land "North-West of the
Ohio River."

 


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Letter from James William Cooper Esq to Son William King Cooper

Letter talks about the KING Family Connection.
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The South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research
SCMAR, Volume XIV - Number 1, Winter, 1986

Letter from J.W. Cooper to His Son (Wm King Cooper)

SCMAR, Vol. XIV, Winter 1986, No. 1, p.33

Your Grandfather King was a Virginian. I know nothing of his ancestry farther than that he was of good family. When the Revolutionary war came on he was a young man, not of age. he went into service as a substitute served out his time, went into the army again for some time. I think not long until he inlisted during the war. In the darkest period of the Revolution he was taken from the ranks and attached to Gen. Washington's life guard, he served in that capacity until the close of the war. He was an eye witness to the distress of the army about Valley forge, and many other places where their foot prints were marked with blood. He was standing sentry at Gen. Washington's Markee when Stuben the Prucian officer came. The life guard was soon placed under his training, ‘till they became as well acquainted with military tactics as the opportunities offered. He was never in a general engagement; when ever one was expected, he was one of the company that was sent to guard the Generals effects. When the british army was moving down towards York Town in Virginia, the American army was also moving on. He got a permit to go by home for a few days: while there he was taken sick. After some little time he thought he could travel, the first day he walked Forty miles, he was so anxious to join the army before the general engagement; but was again taken sick, was taken home, lay a long time, never saw the army any more, before his recovery the army was disbanded. He has often said it was one of the most painful scenes in his life. After so much distress and trouble, not to see the British Lion bow in subjection to the American Eagle, The haughty Briton deliver up his sword to the worn soldier of American independence. After the revolution he formed an acquaintance with Sarah Lemaster (also a Virginian) Miss Lemaster's Father moved to South Carolina, Spartanburg Dist. and settled near Tollesons old place (now called Buzzards roost). Mr. King came to this county about a year after and married miss Lemaster about the year 1789 or 1790, and settled near Rich Hill Spartanburg Dist. he lived in the same neighborhood until his death, which took place March 25 1842, Aged 84 years and two months. I will give you all the ages of the family taken from the family record. John King sen was born in Louesy Co. Virginia Jan 12th 1758. Sarah Lemaster was born in Amherst Co. Virginia Sep 17th 1774. They were married by Genl Hugh Means Esq. March 2nd 1790. Edmond King 1st son of J. & S. King was born in Spartanburg Dist. S. C. Dec 1st 1790. William King 2nd son was born March 19 1792. Mary King 1st daughter was born March 8th 1794. Ann King 2nd daughter was born November 7th 1796. Lucy 3rd daughter was born Nov 15 [or 16th as shown in other records and on tomb stone] 1798. Elizabeth 4th daughter was born September 6th 1800. Martha 5th daughter was born Oct 2 1801. Philip W 3rd son was born Oct 22nd 1803. Sarah 6th daughter was born January 11th 1806. (infant) King 4 son was born Dec 8 1808. Margaret 7th daughter was born Nov 2 1809. John M. King 5 son was born March 28 1812. Minvera King 8th daughter was born May 25th 1815. John King & Sarah Lemaster was married in Spartanburg S. C. March 2nd 1790. James W. Cooper & Lucy King 3rd daughter of J. & S. King was married Dec. 16, 1817. John Easley and Elizabeth King was married Jan. 30, 1825. William King and Rhoda Smith was married in Tennessee in the year 1825. David Reid & Margaret King was married Oct 11th 1827. Hiram White and Sarah King was married Nov 11 1828. Philip W. King and Polly Browning was married in Tennessee August 1st 1829. Edmund King and Mary Emberson was married in Tennessee January 30 1830. John Gossett and Martha King was married Dec 15 1830. John M King and Sarah Hammett was married Nov 1st 1842.
 


Deed abstract of Thomas King of Louisa Co VA:

Names his son John King and his wife Sarah...

Deed Book I, Page 637 28 Dec 1798
 
Sackville King & Ann (wife), William King &
Polly (wife), Thomas King, Elisha King & Judith
(wife), John King & Sarah (wife), Phillip King & Nancy
(wife), Margaret Telford & John (husband) Walter King
& Nancy (wife), Catherine King, Martha King, Elizabeth
King of Louisa of the one part and Benjamin King of
the other part, for �50 for 263 acres on both sides
of Pamunkey River and joining land of James Winston,
George Haywood on one side of the river, and John
Ambler and John Powell on the other side
 
Email: 6

Deb clarifying my White DNA connection to John White who married Catherine parents of Tillah White King...

 

Email 7:
Added here: August 19, 2018, from Deborah Parks

FW: atDNA White and King

Deborah Parks
8/19/2018
To: Mike White mike3113@hotmail.com , Kinjone_2@netscape.com

Hello Mike and Jonah

It has been a while since we corresponded but I wanted to pass something on to you both regarding more King and White connections.  I’ve been analyzing some St. Paul’s parish precincts in Hanover County VA and just realized that Thomas King owned land there in 1755.  Thomas King shows up in precinct 25 which was located in lower Hanover County.  Another land holder in this precinct was James White.  This precinct was also adjacent to a precinct which included the land owned by John White’s orphans – which Tillah White King was one of.   I’m thinking this may have been the same Thomas King of Louisa County.  Have either of you already considered this possibility?

As you can see below, I left the two of you to explore your match with my thinking only of Peter King.  Now I’m wondering if the two of you found any possible connections to Thomas King of Louisa County.   If Thomas King and Tillah White have come into your view at all, please let me know.

Sincerely,
Deborah Thurman Parks
 

 
 

 


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