Name:
Giles Letcher II
1
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1710 in Henrico
Co., VA
Reference Number: 1050
Note:
They lived in Henrico Co., Va., I am
told.
In 2008, some 10 years after this posting, I have this query:
"Hello Pat-- I have been fascinated with all the information you
have compiled on our families on your website.... I would be forever
grateful if you could provide me with the references to any
documentation that you have available supporting that Giles was born
ABT 1710 in Henrico Co., VA and that Hannah Hughes was born ABT 1720
in Henrico Co. as well. Even more important to me is any reference
to documentation that shows that Giles Letcher, his father, was born
ABT 1685 and Giles was married to Perkins who was also born ABT
1685. I have been quite unsuccessful in determining who Giles
Letcher's father and mother are beyond your earliest dates or even
beyond Giles and Hannah Hughes Letcher. All the family histories
indicate that Giles' mother was a "Miss Giles" and that he was a
descendant of the prominent Leche family, but I am unable to
discover these links. Thanking you in advance. Sincerely, Howard
Letcher >howardletcher@hotmail.com<"
Sadly I cannot help here.... but will post this in the aim of
finding an answer.
Howard wrote again and noted: "Hello again Pat--Did you indicate
that you would repost for information on this. I don't know where or
how to do that so I would appreciate that. I have narrowed down that
Giles II is probably the son of an unspecified daughter of John
Giles and Philaritie Woodward since the Perkins and Letcher's
continued to marry into these families for 4 more generations. Also,
Giles owned contiguous land with the Farrars, Perkins, and 4 other
families who were William Giles' and Bethenia Knowles' families. But
I am stumped with the Giles I information that he was married to a
Perkins instead of a Giles. I will continue to keep you updated on
anything I find. Thank you, Howard"
HOWARD LETCHER'S 25 JUL EMAIL SEEKING INPUT FOR HIS LINE:
Howard Letcher >howardletcher@hotmail.com< sent this email below 25
Jul 2008 which carries a query to all for the information he seeks.
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Howard Brion Letcher: My direct ancestors are (Stephen) Giles
Letcher b. abt 1710 and Hannah Hughes b. abt 1715-20. And if it can
be supported with documentation, then my next generation earlier
direct ancestors would be (Stephen) Giles Letcher I b. abt 1685 and
(Elizabeth) Perkins b. abt 1685-95 with undocumented information
that Giles II above and Hannah were both born in Henrico county.
The family story (passed down in my own family in the below form)
continues in many versions which is basically as follows: Giles
Letcher II and Hannah Hughes were born in Northern Ireland (but
whose families removed from Cornwall and/or Wales to Northern
Ireland during the Cromwellian period which is the correct
version--and they were neither Irish, nor Hugenots, nor Scotch/Irish
as some accounts erroneously relate): they married in Richmond, Va
in 1741; that Hannah was "a lady of fortune" descended from the
ancient Welsh family of Hughes; that Giles II's mother was a "Miss
Giles" of either Gileston or Giles Court, a member of the ancient
Welsh Giles family; and finally that Giles Letcher II was a direct
descendant of the ancient Devon Leche family (whose existence in
Britain can be recorded back to the 5th or 6th century and remains
one of the oldest continual landed (not royal) families in Britain
by acquisition/inheritance of the ancient Carden estate through the
female line resulting from the Leche marriage to the Carden heiress
before 1350). The Leche Chatsworth estate (a sub-family of the
Carden Leche family) was sold to the Duke of Devonshire (Lord
William Cavendish) about 1600 who was married to Bess of Hardwicke
(aside from Elizabeth I, the richest and most powerful woman in
England resulting from her three successively more resourceful and
more affluent marriages (opportunistic, perhaps, as had been noted
historically) causing considerable and grave consternation to Queen
Elizabeth) whose stepfather was Ralph Leche and whose sister married
their stepbrother, Francis Leche, at which time the Chatsworth sale
was executed and the Chatsworth Leche family line became extant with
no male heirs; the Carden Leche family still exists today under John
Leche XIV (pursuant to dates and circumstances, I tend to believe
that my ancestor was John Leche IX during whose ownership, Carden
was confiscated by either Cromwell or the crown and, moreover, at
which time I believe John IX removed to Northern Ireland with the
Cavaliers and Quakers and his relatives until Carden was restored to
him 30-40 years later about the time that Giles I should have been
born in 1685 which was also about the time of the reign of William
and Mary). The coat of arms was granted to ____ Leche who was the
surgeon to Edward II (Note: recent published papers that were in the
possession of Bess of Hardwicke as Countess of Shrewsbury reference
Gyles Leche as the bailiff to the first Lord Fitzwilliam c.
1500--could this Gyles be the Leche ancestor of Giles Letcher?).
Most portions of the main theme of the above "family legends", for
the most part, have been published by the conservators of Jeb
Stuart's Letcher birthplace, Laurel Hill plantation, with the
cooperation of the Virginia Historical Society (I think they are
called) or the William and Mary College Quarterly Genealogical
Society (if I am naming that correctly)
Another aspect to the story that appears to ring true is as follows:
the Leche/Letcher family had a history in medicine (as borne out by
both the occupational name as derived from the word, "leech" and the
historical Leche English family facts regarding their ancestry--in
college, I even recall seeing a record that attributed the direct
ancestry of the Letcher/Leche family to King Arthur's counterpart,
Merlin, relative to Merlin's mysterious and magical healing powers
and the Leche family's ancient beginnings in Cornwall--wouldn't this
be about 900?).
My grandmother's personal story (married to my grandfather Julian
Charles Letcher) derived directly and personally from his well-known
family in Alabama who have always been cognizant of their genealogy
which has been published in books detailing state and national
biographies of prominent doctors and lawyers and diplomats (my
great-uncle, Francis Marion Letcher, Jr., was the U.S. Foreign Trade
Advisor, the first consul-general in Mexico, and consul-general in
Belgium and Sweden and, I believe, a fourth country that I cannot at
this moment recall--his father (my g-grandfather), Dr. Letcher,
refused to educate FM, Jr. because he, conversely, refused to study
medicine with his brothers who attended Tulane, and Dr. Letcher
vehemently and disdainfully disregarded Marion's desire to become a
diplomat, so Uncle Marion paid for his own education by tutoring
students at a private school headmastered by another relative). My
grandmother's story related that five Letcher brothers came to
Virginia and they were extremely large folk with handspans twice the
size of ordinary folk. I only wonder how strong this legend was
reinforced in her mind's eye based on her simple observation that
some of my grandfather's brothers along with my g-grandfather, Dr.
Francis Marion Letcher along with some of his brothers were at least
6'9"; Dr. Letcher's sister, Mary Elizabeth Letcher King who settled
in Milam Co, Texas, was approximately 6'. (I might add here that two
of Elizabeth's sons--her oldest and her youngest, Judge Harry Tom
King and Dr. Kenneth A. King, Jr.--married two of my grandmother's
sisters (Jephalona Hale and Annie Campbell Hale) in Jones Co, Texas,
and that Julian Letcher (my grandfather) was their first cousin who
married a third Hale sister, my grandmother, Henry Clay Hale, Jr.
According to my father, this union directly resulted from Julian's
trip to Texas from Alabama in order to visit his Letcher/King
cousins and Letcher uncle in Anson and Abilene fairly soon after his
termination of his 10-year first marriage (all this was certainly
complicated by the fact that my grandmother was his second wife,
while his first wife was his Howard first cousin--but that is not
the exact point of my story here.) The "five sons" interpretation
appears to be accurate but based on the sons of Giles II and Hannah
rather than being based on five independent Virginia Letcher
brother-immigrants.
Now, I will work my way down from (Stephen) Giles Letcher II and
Hannah Hughes to me (all these genealogies in my family are, of
course, supported with documentation) as follows: Their son was
James C. (C = possibly Childers) Letcher who married an heiress,
Melinda Key (Key family property was located next to Perkins and
other Virginia settlers in Henrico, Isle of Wight, Albermarle,
Goochland, and Charles City), and after his marriage, James removed
to Edgefield, SC, in partnership with his father-in-law, Henry Key
II (Henry's gg-grandfather, Henry Key, was lethally married to Lady
Margaret Grey (or Katherine--can't remember which at the moment),
sister of Lady Jane Grey; and Henry Key I's father was Martin Key of
Albermarle), who was a planter and resided there alongside many of
the other Henrico county, Goochland, and Albermarle settlers who
also came to Edgefield and were family members (Melinda's--aka
Millie--second husband was Isaac LeFevre with whom she also had
issue); James' and Melinda's son was Giles V who married Agnes
Talbert (or Talbot or Tolbert in early Virgina and whose family also
was involved with the same Henrico, Albermarle, Goochland, and
Charles City familes); Giles V's and Agnes'--aka Aggie--son was John
David Letcher who married Anne Mathilda Bozeman (the Boseman,
Perkins, Harding, Key, Talbot families again all intermarried and
are also all early Virginia colonists) and I participated in a DNA
program on behalf of Bob Campbell whose Letcher uncle was tested
against my DNA confirming that James and Melinda had another son,
Stephen Tolbert Letcher--my father appears to have been
knowledgeable about the possible existence of this second son via
family lore regarding the abduction by the Cherokees of these two
sons as youths and their subsequent separation and then their
release from the Indians during General Stonewall Jackson's punitive
expeditions through the Indian territories; John David's and Anne's
oldest son was Dr. Francis Marion Letcher who married an heiress of
the Howard/Billingslea/Slatter plantation fortune, Louisa Claudia
Caroline Howard Clanton (her first husband was Nathaniel Holt
Clanton and she was a direct descendant of Matthew Arundell Howard
b. 1609 through her g-grandfather, Revolutionary
Captain/Attorney/Judge Rhesa Howard of Augusta, who married Hannah
Few, sister of William Few, signer of the U.S. Constitution and U.S.
Senator from Georgia), whose youngest son was Julian Charles
(middle-named after his uncle Major Charles Gordon Howard) Letcher
who married 2nd Henry Clay Hale, Jr. (direct descendant of Tidewater
planter, John Clay II via her g-grandmother Mary Clay Thaxton Hale
buried in Independence, Texas), my grandmother (her second husband
was James Jefferson Boley), and whose son was my father John Benson
(middle-named after a relative, Dr. Benson Booth) Letcher and my
aunt Clay Hale Letcher (Julian's first wife was his 1st cousin,
Marion Ramsey--issues of this marriage were Elizabeth Letcher and
Julian Lightfoot (middle-named after another relative, Dr.
Lightfoot) Letcher--, and third wife was Louise Hamburger Pinckney
with whom he had Frances Louise Letcher).
I have not provided information on collateral families, but that is
where the Perkins and Hughes family relationships become very
complex and interesting. From the time of Giles II and Hannah, the
Letcher family continued to marry Perkins and Hughes and Harding
family members for at least 3-4 more generations.
Having researched the Harford Co, Maryland, Howard family from whom
I am descended via Matthew Arundell Howard b. 1609, I was so
surprised that all these families were Quakers and relative to the
requirements of Society of Friends could only marry within the
society (the Howard family not only married within the society, but
they typically only married within themselves generally marrying 1st
cousins for the first 200 years in America (at least in my family)
until sometime before 1799 when Rhesa and Hannah Few Howard
converted to the Methodist faith; but moreso, they married double,
triple, and quadruple first cousins who were even multiple-related
second, third, fourth, and more cousins--unbelievably confusing.
Additionally, when a Howard spouse/relative died, the survivor
typically married the deceased spouse's brother or sister or another
multiple/multiple cousin and because of these circumstances,
attempting to separate and trace the issue of children (who usually
have all the same names each generation) with each relative/spouse,
was extremely complicated, As I said, my grandfather even married
his Howard first/and more cousin.
Starting my research on the Letchers again about one and a half
years ago, I was astonished to find that someone had posted not only
Hannah Hughes Letcher's father and mother as Thomas Hughes Sr and
Sarah Perkins, but that (Stephen) Giles II's father was posted as
(Stephen) Giles Letcher I b. abt 1685 and his mother was posted as
"Perkins" who I subsequently was able to identify as Elizabeth
Perkins b. abt 1685-95 whose father was Nicholas Perkins IV and
mother was Sarah Childers. The only source I had for this new Giles
Letcher I and Elizabeth Perkins information was Pat M. Stevens IV
(his Mitchell family was descended from the Mitchell first cousin
maternal marriage of two grandchildren of Sarah Hannah Letcher, the
only daughter of Giles II and Hannah Hughes) who I have been in
touch with as of late but who is unable to locate his supporting
material for Giles II's parentage or Giles II's and Hannah's
birthplace as Henrico County. He reposted for me on a genealogical
website to try to find the person who provided him this information.
Hannah's father, Thomas Hughes Sr. had his children by Sarah
Perkins, daughter of Nicholas Perkins III and Elizabeth Harding
(with whom he had all his children except Nicholas IV--Nicholas III
and Mary Burton Perkins christened Nicholas IV 11 October 1649 at
Stepney St Dunsten in London--whose mother was Mary Burton who
married second, Richard Parke (see Parke-Custis or Parker). Thomas
Sr.'s second wife was Mary Giles Harding, widow of Thomas Harding. I
don't find that Thomas Hughes Sr. and Mary Giles Harding had any
children. All her children appear to be with Thomas Harding (but I
have not substantiated this as a fact) and children of all of the
Giles/Harding and Giles/Hughes and Hughes/ Perkins marriages
continued to marry Perkins and Hughes and Harding and Letcher
children and descendants--again, so very complicated. Additional
information is that Nicholas III claimed headrights in 1650 (Aug 3)
for Mary (Burton) Perkins, Wm Owens, and Richard Hughes (possibly
Rees Hughes Sr). Upon Nicholas III's death in 1656, he left property
both in Virginia and England which was claimed by Mary Burton
Perkins Parke who had already married Richard Parke. Children of
Thomas Harding and Mary Giles were as follows: 1. William d. 1768
and first married Edith Cox with one daughter, Sarah, who married
Thomas Pollard, and secondly married Sarah LaForce (daughter of Rene
LaForce) and their oldest son was Giles Harding who married Amida
Morris, and Thomas who married Jane Farrar, and William who married
Obedience Hutchins and finally Rene with no data; 2. Thomas Jr; 3.
Mary who married Edward Thomas; 4. Susannah b. 1722 who married
first Charles Ellis, and second John Beckley; and 5. Bethenia b.
1719 d. after 1782 who married first Nicholas Perkins V and second
John Chadwell. Again, the Harding marriages reinforce that they
could have been all of Giles Letcher II's half-first cousins if his
mother was, in fact, Mary Giles Letcher Harding Hughes; the
Hutchins, Perkins, LaForces, Farrars, and others included all the
families surrounding Giles II or for whom he appeared as a witness
in the mid-17th century. It is also interesting to note that Giles
II appears out of nowhere for the first time in 1741 which is
coincidentally the marriage date ascribed for him and Hannah
Hughes--again to emphasize, Giles II literally appears out of
nowhere. Also, Thomas Hughes Sr. b. 1685-90 and wife, Sarah Perkins,
had the following issue: 1. Thomas Jr whose will was probated 1779
had 2 sons and 2 daughters--William b. 1743 who married Mary Ball;
Moses b. 1745 who married Ellizabeth Ball; Mary married John Jude;
and Rebekkah who married Lewis Ball; 2. Charles; 3. Stephen; and 4.
Hannah Hughes married to Giles Letcher II. Both Thomas Hughes Sr and
Mary Giles Harding Hughes were alive in 1748 but she had died by
1769. Another fact to remember is that Nicholas Perkins IV was the
Administrator for William Arrington (married either Melinda Key
Letcher's aunt or sister and was, as I recall, a Revolutionary War
General). Stephen Giles Letcher III's son was General Benjamin
Letcher.
So, the points at which I am stranded are as follows: Is Giles II's
mother really Elizabeth Perkins or does his mother remain as "Miss
Giles" according to family tradition? In this case, then, does
(Stephen) Giles Letcher I even exist because if he does exist, then
he would require a "Miss Giles" as his mother to support not only
the Giles nomenclature, but also the family tradition--or is the
family tradition regarding Giles nomenclature simply inaccurate?
Were Giles Letcher II and Hannah Hughes both born in Henrico co
instead of Northern Ireland to which many Quakers and Cavaliers had
removed during the reigns of Charles I and II and the ensuing
Cromwellian rule of England, even the Carden Leches? Where exactly
in Northern Ireland? And if Giles II's mother was "Miss Giles"--then
which one--it could probably not be a sister of Mary Giles Harding
Hughes since her parents, William Giles and Bethenia Knowles, are
not recorded as having another daughter either by will or any other
information or available document? Or could another daughter have
existed named Bethenia Giles--because I have seen records indicating
that a Bethenia Giles was the daughter of William and Bethenia
Knowles Giles--however, I only assumed that Mary Giles' full name
was Mary Bethenia Giles, but I may have incorrectly assumed that
idea? My most interesting question regarding Mary Giles is this new
hypothesis of mine--could Giles II be the son of Mary Giles with
unnamed Letcher spouse who died previous to her first marriage in
1710 (married first to Thomas Harding at age 22-25 would easily
afford her means and opportunity for an earlier though truncated
marriage to ____ Letcher) to Thomas Harding--this is a possibility
because Giles II's birthdate has generally been recorded as 1710, so
give or take a couple of years for birth of everyone involved, then
Mary Giles Harding Hughes could easily have been married to ____
Letcher first and this would definitely account for the Giles
nomenclature and the intermarriage of the Letcher, Hughes, Harding,
and Giles families along with the Perkins family? Also supporting
this hypothesis is that none of the children of Mary Giles and
Thomas Harding was married since that Letcher would be have to be
Giles Letcher II, her own son. Would it not then be logical that
Mary Giles son, Giles Letcher, was married to her step-daughter,
Hannah Hughes--this is perfectly logical given the pattern of
marriages herein? But if Giles I's or Giles II's mother was "Miss
Giles" though not Mary Giles, then could "Miss Giles" be the
daughter (to account for Giles I) or grandaughter (to account for
Giles II) of John Giles and heiress, Philaritie Woodward, b.
respectively 1624 and 1628 (William Giles' mother and father)?
John's and Philaritie's children are known, at the least, to be
John, Thomas, and William along with an illegitimate daughter by
Philiaritie named Jane Johnston (Johnson) to whose father, William
Johnson (Johnston), she paid almost 6,000 pounds of tobacco for
support of this child who did not live with her and John Giles, and
then Jane received the 400 acre plantation at Blackwater from her
mother; however, a legitimate daughter of Philaritie and John Giles
easily remains possible since I have not found record of all their
issue? Two Thomas Gileses exist and one was the brother of
referenced John Giles and the other was his son, Thomas. Two
daughters of Thomas Giles, the brother of John--Eleanor Giles and
Elizabeth Giles--are known to have married the two Smelley brothers
who were their stepbrothers. Also, the younger Thomas Giles married
the daughter of Jacob Darden and there is an Ann Giles who married
John Moore before 1739. To summarize this subject, thank goodness
the unattractive Smelley family name never became a nomenclature for
any us--take a moment and consider one's unfortunate labelling as
Smelley Letcher; Shakespeare already did a number on the Letcher
name without adding something Smelley to it. Hopefully, this name
was changed to Smedley in subsequent generations.
So, for Giles I to obtain the name Giles, then his mother, "Miss
Giles", would have to be born in time for his birth in 1685 to
attribute either Giles I or II with a "Miss Giles" as his mother
(i.e., in order to support the Giles nomenclature as derived from
his mother's Giles' surname) which is easily supported by my premise
above. These same Giles and Harding and Burton families all married
the same Hughes and Perkins families and, of course, they were all
Quakers. For this reason, I am assuming that the Letchers may have
been Quaker, too, but this may be the reason that there is a lack of
information in the event that "Miss Giles" or Elizabeth Perkins
married outside the Society of Friends when marrying a Letcher and
were ostracised; however, I truly don't really believe this is a
credible conclusion on my part since the marriages with the Letchers
continue for generations. During the past 4 weeks, I have copied
from the Internet any and all documents in Henrico, James Co.,
Albermarle, Charles City, Goochland co that mention or contain Giles
Letcher II's name either as a witness or purchaser or seller--I
probably only have 10 references. And his name appears with Farrar
(daughter married Thomas Harding III), Ware (Ward or Wade), Perkins,
Harding, Burton, Childers, Hutchins (daughter married William
Harding Jr), Mosely (more of the same marriages), LaForce (daughter
married William Harding Jr), Beasley (Thomas Harding or Thomas
Hughes was married to Phoebe Beasley), Price (Sarah Price daughter
of Daniel Price married Harding Perkins, Mildred Perkins father),
Moore (son married Ann Giles daughter of John Giles--see above)
which supports that some if not all these people besides the Perkins
and Hardings and Childers were his family with whom Giles II lived
and interacted--they were all certainly intermarried with each other
and with the Letchers both then and later on.
Finally, I will provide you with another Perkins/Letcher marriage
involving Hughes as follows: Nicholas Perkins IV son, Constantine
(brother to Elizabeth Perkins who was allegedly married to Giles
Letcher I), married first Ann Pollard whose father was Stephen
Pollard and whose mother was Ann Hughes (Hannah's sister, I
believe); their son was Nicholas Perkins IV who married Bethenia
Harding whose daughter married Capt William Letcher (Giles II's son)
whose grandaughter was Elizabeth Letcher Pannill Stuart Hairston,
the mother of Jeb Stuart and Governor ____ Stuart and General George
Hairston, as I recall, along with some other Virginia notables.
Constantine and Ann Pollard's son, Stephen Perkins, married Mary
Hughes, daughter of Benjamin Hughes (Hannah's and Ann's brother,
possibly--I haven't finished this); their daughter, Elizabeth
Perkins, married Stephen Giles Letcher IV whose son was
Governor/General/Ambassador Robert Perkins Letcher of Kentucky. And
of course, Governor Letcher of Virginia who generally has the same
descent as above essentially with Sam Houston added into the formula
deriving the ubiquitous genealogy of the Houston/Letchers of
Rockbridge Co, Lexington, Virginia (I recollect my visits with my
elderly cousin Marine General John Seymour Letcher who was the
grandson of Governor Letcher of Virginia during the
War-between-the-States--I heard that his children recently sold a
handful of their Sam Houston/John Letcher/Robt E Lee
War-between-the-States correspondences for several millions of
dollars at auction with either Sothebys or Christies--General
Letcher kept all these documents in his detached garage, as I
recall, and offered to get the letters out and show them to me at a
convenient for him to dig for them, but unfortunately, I never
visited at a convenient time as I was usually enroute to college in
Williamsburg--his property divided Virginia Military Institute from
Washington and Lee perpendicular to Letcher Avenue in Lexington and
was the rebuilt residence of Governor Letcher's original home that
Sherman burned; post-war, General Robert E. Lee served as president
of Washington College--nka Washington and Lee--while Governor
Letcher served as president of VMI). Also, in Edgefield Co, SC,
Melinda Key Letcher's brother, Tandy Key, married Mildred Perkins,
the daughter of Harding Perkins. Mildred's brother, Daniel Perkins,
married first Margaret Perkins and third, Susan Perkins. This is
only a small amount of collateral Perkins/Hughes/Letcher/Harding
marriages that I have bothered to note.
I did run into a document for Harford co Maryland referencing both
Thomas Hughes and John Giles--together--but these appear to be
different Quaker Hughes and Giles familes as they are involved and
intermarried with my own Howard and Hammond families associated with
my referenced ancestor, Matthew Arundell Howard b. 1609. I have not
discounted their relationship with the Virginia Hughes and Giles
families but I haven't spent any time attempting to connect them
since the Virginia familes all knit so closely and sensibly.
So, if you have anything that will provide me answers or information
regarding the above Giles Letcher I/II questions, I would appreciate
that enormously. Or anything more you have available on Giles
Letcher II since I have absolutely no document or deed or anything
to support Giles Letcher II's existence in the colonies or in
Virginia before about 1741.
SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:
please process this with your copy below that we are descended from
both of nicholas perkins III marriages to elizabeth harding and mary
burton since i failed to note that since giles letcher I's wife
elizabeth perkins was the daughter of nicholas perkins IV and sarah
childers and that nicholas perkins IV was the son of nicholas
perkins and mary burton. elizabeth perkins father was who i am
referring to as nicholas IV. sarah perkins mother of hannah hughes
was daughter of nicholas III. nicholas III's mother was jane
irondonger (I have much more on her parentage) and nicholas III
first wife elizabeth harding's father was constantine harding.
nicholas II has unidentified wife and his father nicholas I was son
of arthur perkins whose wife was elizabeth kymball whose father was
nicholas kymball. nicholas perkins III second wife mary burton
(mother of nicholas IV) was daughter of lydia fry and john burton
son of robert burton of longfield and mary knowles (have lots more
on this since mary giles harding hughes was daughter of william
giles and bethenia knowles and she was the daugher and heir of capt.
john knowles of jamestown--also see newell noel noles). nicholas
IV's wife sarah childers is daughter of abraham childers I and jane
anne howard--jane anne's father was john howard b 1590 d 1660 and
abraham's father was william sr the immigrant 1622-1679 and his wife
was dame anne ramsden; william sr the immigrant's father was william
childers d. 1648 married to anne webster and his father was hugh
childers 1500-1571 married to maude _____. thomas hughes sr was
edward married to elizabeth skiffen anderson and his father was rees
hughes sr (possibly richard). philaritie woodward giles (married to
john giles)--she had an illegitimate daughter jane with william
johnston/johnson before her marriage to john giles was consummated.
her father was thomas woodward sr who was 1st surveyor general of
north carolina and remained assay master to the mint under charles I
and did not give up that appointment even after coming to virginia;
his father was thomas and the woodwards and the smiths and nathaniel
bacon are intermarried. the hardings herein listed are direct
descendants of the scottish clan/house of bueccleuch and are listed
as such in a genealogy that i have on the hardin/harding family
which includes them. also giles letcher has involvement with ware
family. somewhere the ware and turpin families that adjoin giles
letcher property are also on my father's genealogy, possibly
key--can't remember.
Since Mary Giles Harding Hughes (or perhaps a sister, Bethenia
Giles) might be the mother of Giles Letcher II, then the following
genealogy for her is as follows: father was William Giles b. 1650
and d. 1728-9 Henrico co married to Bethenia Knowles b. 1669 d. 1742
whose father was Capt John Knowles of Jamestown b. 1612 d. 1685 and
will was witnessed 1676 by John and Robert Burton--he may have been
born 1629-30; William Giles was son of John Giles d. 1708 and
Philaritie Woodward b. 1628; John's father was Jonathan Giles b.
1603; Philaritie's father was....
SEE HANNAH HUGHES FOR THE COMPLETION OF THIS NOTE
Marriage
1Hannah
Hughes b: ABT 1720 in
Henrico Co., VA
ID: I01051
Name:
Hannah Hughes
1
Sex: F
Birth: ABT 1720 in
Henrico Co., VA
Reference Number:
1051
Note:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stevensp&id=I01051
CONTINUATION OF HOWARD
LETCHER >howardletcher@hotmail.com< 25 JUL 2008 EMAIL SHOWN
UNDER HANNAH'S HUSBAND:
.... Thomas Sr born 1600 d. 1677 married to Katherine. And
the father of Thomas Harding married to Mary Giles was
Thomas Harding b. 1630 d. 1689 and was married to Mary Berry
b. 1666-91 and died 1715-17??. I also have a document
showing Martin Key and Giles Letcher II involved in some
transaction in 1650. Back to Capt John Knowles b. 1612 d.
1685 married to Mary Broadnax b. 1620 d. 1685 whose father
was Thomas Broadnax the Immigrant 1592-1658 married to
Elizabeth Taylor 1596 - ?, daughter of John Taylor Lord of
Shadockhurst 1570- ? married to Elizabeth Chute 1530 - ?.
Finally, in 1741 (the first appearance of Giles Letcher II),
James Wade (Ware, Ward), Giles Letcher of Henrico Parish
land bounded by Hazel Ware and Henry Ware (Ward, Wade) James
Wade sold remainder to Strangeman Hutchins in the folk
(fork) of Tuckahoe Creek adjoining Leonard Henley, John
Barnet Jr., Giles Letcher, Henry Ware. Giles Letcher II died
before 2 Aug 1779 in Henrico co.
i am including these two emails from Patricia Pope Matson
below who just sent them to me regarding Giles II and Hannah
Letcher's ownership of a tavern in Goochland co. note the
Jefferson and Lewis reference--both these individuals are
relatives of the Letchers via the ware or branch families--i
will have to provide that connection at a later date:
hello Howard
In the Thomas Lewis Journal it is only referred to as the
"Letcher Tavern" and the court records do not show a name
for the tavern. The Tavern is in Goochland County. I have an
early map of the county borders of VA and it shows that
Goochland was originally a huge county but slowly decreased
in size. The map starts in 1585 and shows the formation of
the first county in 1641. Goochland was formed between 1731
and 1740. By 1741 it had been cut back to basically the size
it is today, Albermarle was cut out at that time.
Like you I have a copy of the story regarding the business
in Petersburg that supposedly burned. I have not been able
to confirm that story, I'm still looking.
Here is the information I have on the very early history of
the Hughes Family. I have not documented this information
"The progenitor of the American Branch of the family was
Giles Letcher, whose mother, of Welch descent was a Miss
Giles before her marriage. Giles Letcher came to the United
States when a youth from the north of Ireland and settled in
VA, first at Richmond and later in Goochland County. His
wife was Hannah Hughes, a descendant of the Welch family of
that name. Powys castle ancient seat of the Hughes family is
still standing, and is one of the few old castles in Wales
that is still as a home. It is one mile from Welshpool in
Montgomery County, in the north of Wales"
"The Letcher chart gives the following as the Hughes Family,
aristocratic ancestry of Hannah Hughes. The Hughes deduce
through the Barons of Kymmer-Yn-Edeunion, and the royal
house of Powys, a genealogy of 28 descents, transmitted in
common with the lineage of the monarchs of North Wales and
South Wales, in the annals of the Cymri as the Egbert of his
race, who inherited the several kingdoms of North Wales,
South Wales and the Powys, became King of all Wales in 643.
There is more and I will happily share it with you if you do
not already have the info. This history was compiled by
Samuel Houston Showell.
There is a record of a land purchase by Giles Letcher dated
Nov. 17 1741 containing 135 acres on the North bank of the
James River in Goochland County some 35 miles west of
Richmond. This deed is recorded in Goochland Court House on
page 504 of Liber 3 of Deeds. He supposedly bought other
land later, the last record of purchase was dated November
6, 1747
Let me know what other information you are looking for Pat
Hi
I have Giles Letcher married to Hannah Hughes daughter of
James Hughes in the early 1700's. One of their children was
Stephen Giles Letcher who married Elizabeth Perkins in 1767.
The Douglas Register lists the following children born to
Stephen Giles Letcher and Elizabeth Perkins in Virginia:
Benjamin Letcher Baptized Nov. 22, 1767: John Letcher
baptizedDec. 19, 1769; Stephen Giles baptized April 1, 1771;
Mary baptized April 1778. Other records indicate they had
another daughter named Elizabeth Brown Letcher who married
David Logan McKee in KY. and a son named Robert Perkins
Letcher who became Governor of KY in 1840. My direct line
comes down from Giles Letcher and Hannah Hughes to Stephen
Giles Letcher and Elizabeth Perkins to my 3rd gr.
grandmother Elizabeth Brown Letcher McKee.
I have a partial copy of a book entitledOur Pioneer
Ancestors it covers the following families who intermarried:
Hynes, Chenault, Dunn, McKee, Anderson, Taylor, Finley,
Letcher and Houston families. The book was written by Emma
Hynes Riggs and Henry Earle Riggs in Ann Arbor Michigan in
1941.
When I visited Goochland County, VA last year I found
information in Court Records that showed that Giles Letcher
and his wife Hannah Hughes owned a tavern in Goochland
County starting in 1744 through 1749. Giles Letcher used 3
different bondsmen. I found the original reference to this
Tavern in a Journal kept by Thomas Lewis when he and Peter
Jefferson did the survey work on the Fairfax Line in 1746.
Thomas Lewis commented that they were looking forward to
staying one night at the Letcher Tavern. Then I found the
Court Records verifying that information The Journal is
available at the Library of VA in Richmond and at the New
England Historical Genealogical Library in Boston, MA. There
are other copies, just go on OCLC and type in subject Thomas
Lewis Fairfax Line Survey and your zip Code and that site
will give you the location of other libraries that have the
journal.
This family also produced Governor John Letcher of VA in
1860 and eventually Sam Houston.
Stephen Giles Letcher was given the contract by Garrard
County, KY to build the first Court House and Jail. they
were very influential in Garrard County KY.
You seem to have considerably more information on Giles
Letcher and Hannah Hughes than I do, Thanks for sharing. Let
me know if you can use other information on the Letcher
Family. I know one of Giles Letcher and Hannah Hughes lost a
son in the Revolutionary War.
Patricia Pope Matson
Pat
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