Name:
		Giles Letcher II 
		1
		Sex: M
		Birth: ABT 1710 in Henrico 
		Co., VA
		Reference Number: 1050
		Note: 
		
			They lived in Henrico Co., Va., I am 
			told. 
			 
			In 2008, some 10 years after this posting, I have this query: 
			 
			"Hello Pat-- I have been fascinated with all the information you 
			have compiled on our families on your website.... I would be forever 
			grateful if you could provide me with the references to any 
			documentation that you have available supporting that Giles was born 
			ABT 1710 in Henrico Co., VA and that Hannah Hughes was born ABT 1720 
			in Henrico Co. as well. Even more important to me is any reference 
			to documentation that shows that Giles Letcher, his father, was born 
			ABT 1685 and Giles was married to Perkins who was also born ABT 
			1685. I have been quite unsuccessful in determining who Giles 
			Letcher's father and mother are beyond your earliest dates or even 
			beyond Giles and Hannah Hughes Letcher. All the family histories 
			indicate that Giles' mother was a "Miss Giles" and that he was a 
			descendant of the prominent Leche family, but I am unable to 
			discover these links. Thanking you in advance. Sincerely, Howard 
			Letcher >howardletcher@hotmail.com<" 
			 
			Sadly I cannot help here.... but will post this in the aim of 
			finding an answer. 
			 
			Howard wrote again and noted: "Hello again Pat--Did you indicate 
			that you would repost for information on this. I don't know where or 
			how to do that so I would appreciate that. I have narrowed down that 
			Giles II is probably the son of an unspecified daughter of John 
			Giles and Philaritie Woodward since the Perkins and Letcher's 
			continued to marry into these families for 4 more generations. Also, 
			Giles owned contiguous land with the Farrars, Perkins, and 4 other 
			families who were William Giles' and Bethenia Knowles' families. But 
			I am stumped with the Giles I information that he was married to a 
			Perkins instead of a Giles. I will continue to keep you updated on 
			anything I find. Thank you, Howard" 
			 
			HOWARD LETCHER'S 25 JUL EMAIL SEEKING INPUT FOR HIS LINE: 
			 
			Howard Letcher >howardletcher@hotmail.com< sent this email below 25 
			Jul 2008 which carries a query to all for the information he seeks.
			 
			 
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			Howard Brion Letcher: My direct ancestors are (Stephen) Giles 
			Letcher b. abt 1710 and Hannah Hughes b. abt 1715-20. And if it can 
			be supported with documentation, then my next generation earlier 
			direct ancestors would be (Stephen) Giles Letcher I b. abt 1685 and 
			(Elizabeth) Perkins b. abt 1685-95 with undocumented information 
			that Giles II above and Hannah were both born in Henrico county.  
			 
			The family story (passed down in my own family in the below form) 
			continues in many versions which is basically as follows: Giles 
			Letcher II and Hannah Hughes were born in Northern Ireland (but 
			whose families removed from Cornwall and/or Wales to Northern 
			Ireland during the Cromwellian period which is the correct 
			version--and they were neither Irish, nor Hugenots, nor Scotch/Irish 
			as some accounts erroneously relate): they married in Richmond, Va 
			in 1741; that Hannah was "a lady of fortune" descended from the 
			ancient Welsh family of Hughes; that Giles II's mother was a "Miss 
			Giles" of either Gileston or Giles Court, a member of the ancient 
			Welsh Giles family; and finally that Giles Letcher II was a direct 
			descendant of the ancient Devon Leche family (whose existence in 
			Britain can be recorded back to the 5th or 6th century and remains 
			one of the oldest continual landed (not royal) families in Britain 
			by acquisition/inheritance of the ancient Carden estate through the 
			female line resulting from the Leche marriage to the Carden heiress 
			before 1350). The Leche Chatsworth estate (a sub-family of the 
			Carden Leche family) was sold to the Duke of Devonshire (Lord 
			William Cavendish) about 1600 who was married to Bess of Hardwicke 
			(aside from Elizabeth I, the richest and most powerful woman in 
			England resulting from her three successively more resourceful and 
			more affluent marriages (opportunistic, perhaps, as had been noted 
			historically) causing considerable and grave consternation to Queen 
			Elizabeth) whose stepfather was Ralph Leche and whose sister married 
			their stepbrother, Francis Leche, at which time the Chatsworth sale 
			was executed and the Chatsworth Leche family line became extant with 
			no male heirs; the Carden Leche family still exists today under John 
			Leche XIV (pursuant to dates and circumstances, I tend to believe 
			that my ancestor was John Leche IX during whose ownership, Carden 
			was confiscated by either Cromwell or the crown and, moreover, at 
			which time I believe John IX removed to Northern Ireland with the 
			Cavaliers and Quakers and his relatives until Carden was restored to 
			him 30-40 years later about the time that Giles I should have been 
			born in 1685 which was also about the time of the reign of William 
			and Mary). The coat of arms was granted to ____ Leche who was the 
			surgeon to Edward II (Note: recent published papers that were in the 
			possession of Bess of Hardwicke as Countess of Shrewsbury reference 
			Gyles Leche as the bailiff to the first Lord Fitzwilliam c. 
			1500--could this Gyles be the Leche ancestor of Giles Letcher?). 
			Most portions of the main theme of the above "family legends", for 
			the most part, have been published by the conservators of Jeb 
			Stuart's Letcher birthplace, Laurel Hill plantation, with the 
			cooperation of the Virginia Historical Society (I think they are 
			called) or the William and Mary College Quarterly Genealogical 
			Society (if I am naming that correctly) 
			 
			Another aspect to the story that appears to ring true is as follows: 
			the Leche/Letcher family had a history in medicine (as borne out by 
			both the occupational name as derived from the word, "leech" and the 
			historical Leche English family facts regarding their ancestry--in 
			college, I even recall seeing a record that attributed the direct 
			ancestry of the Letcher/Leche family to King Arthur's counterpart, 
			Merlin, relative to Merlin's mysterious and magical healing powers 
			and the Leche family's ancient beginnings in Cornwall--wouldn't this 
			be about 900?). 
			 
			My grandmother's personal story (married to my grandfather Julian 
			Charles Letcher) derived directly and personally from his well-known 
			family in Alabama who have always been cognizant of their genealogy 
			which has been published in books detailing state and national 
			biographies of prominent doctors and lawyers and diplomats (my 
			great-uncle, Francis Marion Letcher, Jr., was the U.S. Foreign Trade 
			Advisor, the first consul-general in Mexico, and consul-general in 
			Belgium and Sweden and, I believe, a fourth country that I cannot at 
			this moment recall--his father (my g-grandfather), Dr. Letcher, 
			refused to educate FM, Jr. because he, conversely, refused to study 
			medicine with his brothers who attended Tulane, and Dr. Letcher 
			vehemently and disdainfully disregarded Marion's desire to become a 
			diplomat, so Uncle Marion paid for his own education by tutoring 
			students at a private school headmastered by another relative). My 
			grandmother's story related that five Letcher brothers came to 
			Virginia and they were extremely large folk with handspans twice the 
			size of ordinary folk. I only wonder how strong this legend was 
			reinforced in her mind's eye based on her simple observation that 
			some of my grandfather's brothers along with my g-grandfather, Dr. 
			Francis Marion Letcher along with some of his brothers were at least 
			6'9"; Dr. Letcher's sister, Mary Elizabeth Letcher King who settled 
			in Milam Co, Texas, was approximately 6'. (I might add here that two 
			of Elizabeth's sons--her oldest and her youngest, Judge Harry Tom 
			King and Dr. Kenneth A. King, Jr.--married two of my grandmother's 
			sisters (Jephalona Hale and Annie Campbell Hale) in Jones Co, Texas, 
			and that Julian Letcher (my grandfather) was their first cousin who 
			married a third Hale sister, my grandmother, Henry Clay Hale, Jr. 
			According to my father, this union directly resulted from Julian's 
			trip to Texas from Alabama in order to visit his Letcher/King 
			cousins and Letcher uncle in Anson and Abilene fairly soon after his 
			termination of his 10-year first marriage (all this was certainly 
			complicated by the fact that my grandmother was his second wife, 
			while his first wife was his Howard first cousin--but that is not 
			the exact point of my story here.) The "five sons" interpretation 
			appears to be accurate but based on the sons of Giles II and Hannah 
			rather than being based on five independent Virginia Letcher 
			brother-immigrants. 
			 
			Now, I will work my way down from (Stephen) Giles Letcher II and 
			Hannah Hughes to me (all these genealogies in my family are, of 
			course, supported with documentation) as follows: Their son was 
			James C. (C = possibly Childers) Letcher who married an heiress, 
			Melinda Key (Key family property was located next to Perkins and 
			other Virginia settlers in Henrico, Isle of Wight, Albermarle, 
			Goochland, and Charles City), and after his marriage, James removed 
			to Edgefield, SC, in partnership with his father-in-law, Henry Key 
			II (Henry's gg-grandfather, Henry Key, was lethally married to Lady 
			Margaret Grey (or Katherine--can't remember which at the moment), 
			sister of Lady Jane Grey; and Henry Key I's father was Martin Key of 
			Albermarle), who was a planter and resided there alongside many of 
			the other Henrico county, Goochland, and Albermarle settlers who 
			also came to Edgefield and were family members (Melinda's--aka 
			Millie--second husband was Isaac LeFevre with whom she also had 
			issue); James' and Melinda's son was Giles V who married Agnes 
			Talbert (or Talbot or Tolbert in early Virgina and whose family also 
			was involved with the same Henrico, Albermarle, Goochland, and 
			Charles City familes); Giles V's and Agnes'--aka Aggie--son was John 
			David Letcher who married Anne Mathilda Bozeman (the Boseman, 
			Perkins, Harding, Key, Talbot families again all intermarried and 
			are also all early Virginia colonists) and I participated in a DNA 
			program on behalf of Bob Campbell whose Letcher uncle was tested 
			against my DNA confirming that James and Melinda had another son, 
			Stephen Tolbert Letcher--my father appears to have been 
			knowledgeable about the possible existence of this second son via 
			family lore regarding the abduction by the Cherokees of these two 
			sons as youths and their subsequent separation and then their 
			release from the Indians during General Stonewall Jackson's punitive 
			expeditions through the Indian territories; John David's and Anne's 
			oldest son was Dr. Francis Marion Letcher who married an heiress of 
			the Howard/Billingslea/Slatter plantation fortune, Louisa Claudia 
			Caroline Howard Clanton (her first husband was Nathaniel Holt 
			Clanton and she was a direct descendant of Matthew Arundell Howard 
			b. 1609 through her g-grandfather, Revolutionary 
			Captain/Attorney/Judge Rhesa Howard of Augusta, who married Hannah 
			Few, sister of William Few, signer of the U.S. Constitution and U.S. 
			Senator from Georgia), whose youngest son was Julian Charles 
			(middle-named after his uncle Major Charles Gordon Howard) Letcher 
			who married 2nd Henry Clay Hale, Jr. (direct descendant of Tidewater 
			planter, John Clay II via her g-grandmother Mary Clay Thaxton Hale 
			buried in Independence, Texas), my grandmother (her second husband 
			was James Jefferson Boley), and whose son was my father John Benson 
			(middle-named after a relative, Dr. Benson Booth) Letcher and my 
			aunt Clay Hale Letcher (Julian's first wife was his 1st cousin, 
			Marion Ramsey--issues of this marriage were Elizabeth Letcher and 
			Julian Lightfoot (middle-named after another relative, Dr. 
			Lightfoot) Letcher--, and third wife was Louise Hamburger Pinckney 
			with whom he had Frances Louise Letcher). 
			 
			I have not provided information on collateral families, but that is 
			where the Perkins and Hughes family relationships become very 
			complex and interesting. From the time of Giles II and Hannah, the 
			Letcher family continued to marry Perkins and Hughes and Harding 
			family members for at least 3-4 more generations. 
			 
			Having researched the Harford Co, Maryland, Howard family from whom 
			I am descended via Matthew Arundell Howard b. 1609, I was so 
			surprised that all these families were Quakers and relative to the 
			requirements of Society of Friends could only marry within the 
			society (the Howard family not only married within the society, but 
			they typically only married within themselves generally marrying 1st 
			cousins for the first 200 years in America (at least in my family) 
			until sometime before 1799 when Rhesa and Hannah Few Howard 
			converted to the Methodist faith; but moreso, they married double, 
			triple, and quadruple first cousins who were even multiple-related 
			second, third, fourth, and more cousins--unbelievably confusing. 
			Additionally, when a Howard spouse/relative died, the survivor 
			typically married the deceased spouse's brother or sister or another 
			multiple/multiple cousin and because of these circumstances, 
			attempting to separate and trace the issue of children (who usually 
			have all the same names each generation) with each relative/spouse, 
			was extremely complicated, As I said, my grandfather even married 
			his Howard first/and more cousin. 
			 
			Starting my research on the Letchers again about one and a half 
			years ago, I was astonished to find that someone had posted not only 
			Hannah Hughes Letcher's father and mother as Thomas Hughes Sr and 
			Sarah Perkins, but that (Stephen) Giles II's father was posted as 
			(Stephen) Giles Letcher I b. abt 1685 and his mother was posted as 
			"Perkins" who I subsequently was able to identify as Elizabeth 
			Perkins b. abt 1685-95 whose father was Nicholas Perkins IV and 
			mother was Sarah Childers. The only source I had for this new Giles 
			Letcher I and Elizabeth Perkins information was Pat M. Stevens IV 
			(his Mitchell family was descended from the Mitchell first cousin 
			maternal marriage of two grandchildren of Sarah Hannah Letcher, the 
			only daughter of Giles II and Hannah Hughes) who I have been in 
			touch with as of late but who is unable to locate his supporting 
			material for Giles II's parentage or Giles II's and Hannah's 
			birthplace as Henrico County. He reposted for me on a genealogical 
			website to try to find the person who provided him this information. 
			 
			Hannah's father, Thomas Hughes Sr. had his children by Sarah 
			Perkins, daughter of Nicholas Perkins III and Elizabeth Harding 
			(with whom he had all his children except Nicholas IV--Nicholas III 
			and Mary Burton Perkins christened Nicholas IV 11 October 1649 at 
			Stepney St Dunsten in London--whose mother was Mary Burton who 
			married second, Richard Parke (see Parke-Custis or Parker). Thomas 
			Sr.'s second wife was Mary Giles Harding, widow of Thomas Harding. I 
			don't find that Thomas Hughes Sr. and Mary Giles Harding had any 
			children. All her children appear to be with Thomas Harding (but I 
			have not substantiated this as a fact) and children of all of the 
			Giles/Harding and Giles/Hughes and Hughes/ Perkins marriages 
			continued to marry Perkins and Hughes and Harding and Letcher 
			children and descendants--again, so very complicated. Additional 
			information is that Nicholas III claimed headrights in 1650 (Aug 3) 
			for Mary (Burton) Perkins, Wm Owens, and Richard Hughes (possibly 
			Rees Hughes Sr). Upon Nicholas III's death in 1656, he left property 
			both in Virginia and England which was claimed by Mary Burton 
			Perkins Parke who had already married Richard Parke. Children of 
			Thomas Harding and Mary Giles were as follows: 1. William d. 1768 
			and first married Edith Cox with one daughter, Sarah, who married 
			Thomas Pollard, and secondly married Sarah LaForce (daughter of Rene 
			LaForce) and their oldest son was Giles Harding who married Amida 
			Morris, and Thomas who married Jane Farrar, and William who married 
			Obedience Hutchins and finally Rene with no data; 2. Thomas Jr; 3. 
			Mary who married Edward Thomas; 4. Susannah b. 1722 who married 
			first Charles Ellis, and second John Beckley; and 5. Bethenia b. 
			1719 d. after 1782 who married first Nicholas Perkins V and second 
			John Chadwell. Again, the Harding marriages reinforce that they 
			could have been all of Giles Letcher II's half-first cousins if his 
			mother was, in fact, Mary Giles Letcher Harding Hughes; the 
			Hutchins, Perkins, LaForces, Farrars, and others included all the 
			families surrounding Giles II or for whom he appeared as a witness 
			in the mid-17th century. It is also interesting to note that Giles 
			II appears out of nowhere for the first time in 1741 which is 
			coincidentally the marriage date ascribed for him and Hannah 
			Hughes--again to emphasize, Giles II literally appears out of 
			nowhere. Also, Thomas Hughes Sr. b. 1685-90 and wife, Sarah Perkins, 
			had the following issue: 1. Thomas Jr whose will was probated 1779 
			had 2 sons and 2 daughters--William b. 1743 who married Mary Ball; 
			Moses b. 1745 who married Ellizabeth Ball; Mary married John Jude; 
			and Rebekkah who married Lewis Ball; 2. Charles; 3. Stephen; and 4. 
			Hannah Hughes married to Giles Letcher II. Both Thomas Hughes Sr and 
			Mary Giles Harding Hughes were alive in 1748 but she had died by 
			1769. Another fact to remember is that Nicholas Perkins IV was the 
			Administrator for William Arrington (married either Melinda Key 
			Letcher's aunt or sister and was, as I recall, a Revolutionary War 
			General). Stephen Giles Letcher III's son was General Benjamin 
			Letcher.  
			 
			So, the points at which I am stranded are as follows: Is Giles II's 
			mother really Elizabeth Perkins or does his mother remain as "Miss 
			Giles" according to family tradition? In this case, then, does 
			(Stephen) Giles Letcher I even exist because if he does exist, then 
			he would require a "Miss Giles" as his mother to support not only 
			the Giles nomenclature, but also the family tradition--or is the 
			family tradition regarding Giles nomenclature simply inaccurate? 
			Were Giles Letcher II and Hannah Hughes both born in Henrico co 
			instead of Northern Ireland to which many Quakers and Cavaliers had 
			removed during the reigns of Charles I and II and the ensuing 
			Cromwellian rule of England, even the Carden Leches? Where exactly 
			in Northern Ireland? And if Giles II's mother was "Miss Giles"--then 
			which one--it could probably not be a sister of Mary Giles Harding 
			Hughes since her parents, William Giles and Bethenia Knowles, are 
			not recorded as having another daughter either by will or any other 
			information or available document? Or could another daughter have 
			existed named Bethenia Giles--because I have seen records indicating 
			that a Bethenia Giles was the daughter of William and Bethenia 
			Knowles Giles--however, I only assumed that Mary Giles' full name 
			was Mary Bethenia Giles, but I may have incorrectly assumed that 
			idea? My most interesting question regarding Mary Giles is this new 
			hypothesis of mine--could Giles II be the son of Mary Giles with 
			unnamed Letcher spouse who died previous to her first marriage in 
			1710 (married first to Thomas Harding at age 22-25 would easily 
			afford her means and opportunity for an earlier though truncated 
			marriage to ____ Letcher) to Thomas Harding--this is a possibility 
			because Giles II's birthdate has generally been recorded as 1710, so 
			give or take a couple of years for birth of everyone involved, then 
			Mary Giles Harding Hughes could easily have been married to ____ 
			Letcher first and this would definitely account for the Giles 
			nomenclature and the intermarriage of the Letcher, Hughes, Harding, 
			and Giles families along with the Perkins family? Also supporting 
			this hypothesis is that none of the children of Mary Giles and 
			Thomas Harding was married since that Letcher would be have to be 
			Giles Letcher II, her own son. Would it not then be logical that 
			Mary Giles son, Giles Letcher, was married to her step-daughter, 
			Hannah Hughes--this is perfectly logical given the pattern of 
			marriages herein? But if Giles I's or Giles II's mother was "Miss 
			Giles" though not Mary Giles, then could "Miss Giles" be the 
			daughter (to account for Giles I) or grandaughter (to account for 
			Giles II) of John Giles and heiress, Philaritie Woodward, b. 
			respectively 1624 and 1628 (William Giles' mother and father)? 
			John's and Philaritie's children are known, at the least, to be 
			John, Thomas, and William along with an illegitimate daughter by 
			Philiaritie named Jane Johnston (Johnson) to whose father, William 
			Johnson (Johnston), she paid almost 6,000 pounds of tobacco for 
			support of this child who did not live with her and John Giles, and 
			then Jane received the 400 acre plantation at Blackwater from her 
			mother; however, a legitimate daughter of Philaritie and John Giles 
			easily remains possible since I have not found record of all their 
			issue? Two Thomas Gileses exist and one was the brother of 
			referenced John Giles and the other was his son, Thomas. Two 
			daughters of Thomas Giles, the brother of John--Eleanor Giles and 
			Elizabeth Giles--are known to have married the two Smelley brothers 
			who were their stepbrothers. Also, the younger Thomas Giles married 
			the daughter of Jacob Darden and there is an Ann Giles who married 
			John Moore before 1739. To summarize this subject, thank goodness 
			the unattractive Smelley family name never became a nomenclature for 
			any us--take a moment and consider one's unfortunate labelling as 
			Smelley Letcher; Shakespeare already did a number on the Letcher 
			name without adding something Smelley to it. Hopefully, this name 
			was changed to Smedley in subsequent generations. 
			 
			So, for Giles I to obtain the name Giles, then his mother, "Miss 
			Giles", would have to be born in time for his birth in 1685 to 
			attribute either Giles I or II with a "Miss Giles" as his mother 
			(i.e., in order to support the Giles nomenclature as derived from 
			his mother's Giles' surname) which is easily supported by my premise 
			above. These same Giles and Harding and Burton families all married 
			the same Hughes and Perkins families and, of course, they were all 
			Quakers. For this reason, I am assuming that the Letchers may have 
			been Quaker, too, but this may be the reason that there is a lack of 
			information in the event that "Miss Giles" or Elizabeth Perkins 
			married outside the Society of Friends when marrying a Letcher and 
			were ostracised; however, I truly don't really believe this is a 
			credible conclusion on my part since the marriages with the Letchers 
			continue for generations. During the past 4 weeks, I have copied 
			from the Internet any and all documents in Henrico, James Co., 
			Albermarle, Charles City, Goochland co that mention or contain Giles 
			Letcher II's name either as a witness or purchaser or seller--I 
			probably only have 10 references. And his name appears with Farrar 
			(daughter married Thomas Harding III), Ware (Ward or Wade), Perkins, 
			Harding, Burton, Childers, Hutchins (daughter married William 
			Harding Jr), Mosely (more of the same marriages), LaForce (daughter 
			married William Harding Jr), Beasley (Thomas Harding or Thomas 
			Hughes was married to Phoebe Beasley), Price (Sarah Price daughter 
			of Daniel Price married Harding Perkins, Mildred Perkins father), 
			Moore (son married Ann Giles daughter of John Giles--see above) 
			which supports that some if not all these people besides the Perkins 
			and Hardings and Childers were his family with whom Giles II lived 
			and interacted--they were all certainly intermarried with each other 
			and with the Letchers both then and later on. 
			 
			Finally, I will provide you with another Perkins/Letcher marriage 
			involving Hughes as follows: Nicholas Perkins IV son, Constantine 
			(brother to Elizabeth Perkins who was allegedly married to Giles 
			Letcher I), married first Ann Pollard whose father was Stephen 
			Pollard and whose mother was Ann Hughes (Hannah's sister, I 
			believe); their son was Nicholas Perkins IV who married Bethenia 
			Harding whose daughter married Capt William Letcher (Giles II's son) 
			whose grandaughter was Elizabeth Letcher Pannill Stuart Hairston, 
			the mother of Jeb Stuart and Governor ____ Stuart and General George 
			Hairston, as I recall, along with some other Virginia notables. 
			Constantine and Ann Pollard's son, Stephen Perkins, married Mary 
			Hughes, daughter of Benjamin Hughes (Hannah's and Ann's brother, 
			possibly--I haven't finished this); their daughter, Elizabeth 
			Perkins, married Stephen Giles Letcher IV whose son was 
			Governor/General/Ambassador Robert Perkins Letcher of Kentucky. And 
			of course, Governor Letcher of Virginia who generally has the same 
			descent as above essentially with Sam Houston added into the formula 
			deriving the ubiquitous genealogy of the Houston/Letchers of 
			Rockbridge Co, Lexington, Virginia (I recollect my visits with my 
			elderly cousin Marine General John Seymour Letcher who was the 
			grandson of Governor Letcher of Virginia during the 
			War-between-the-States--I heard that his children recently sold a 
			handful of their Sam Houston/John Letcher/Robt E Lee 
			War-between-the-States correspondences for several millions of 
			dollars at auction with either Sothebys or Christies--General 
			Letcher kept all these documents in his detached garage, as I 
			recall, and offered to get the letters out and show them to me at a 
			convenient for him to dig for them, but unfortunately, I never 
			visited at a convenient time as I was usually enroute to college in 
			Williamsburg--his property divided Virginia Military Institute from 
			Washington and Lee perpendicular to Letcher Avenue in Lexington and 
			was the rebuilt residence of Governor Letcher's original home that 
			Sherman burned; post-war, General Robert E. Lee served as president 
			of Washington College--nka Washington and Lee--while Governor 
			Letcher served as president of VMI). Also, in Edgefield Co, SC, 
			Melinda Key Letcher's brother, Tandy Key, married Mildred Perkins, 
			the daughter of Harding Perkins. Mildred's brother, Daniel Perkins, 
			married first Margaret Perkins and third, Susan Perkins. This is 
			only a small amount of collateral Perkins/Hughes/Letcher/Harding 
			marriages that I have bothered to note. 
			 
			I did run into a document for Harford co Maryland referencing both 
			Thomas Hughes and John Giles--together--but these appear to be 
			different Quaker Hughes and Giles familes as they are involved and 
			intermarried with my own Howard and Hammond families associated with 
			my referenced ancestor, Matthew Arundell Howard b. 1609. I have not 
			discounted their relationship with the Virginia Hughes and Giles 
			families but I haven't spent any time attempting to connect them 
			since the Virginia familes all knit so closely and sensibly. 
			 
			So, if you have anything that will provide me answers or information 
			regarding the above Giles Letcher I/II questions, I would appreciate 
			that enormously. Or anything more you have available on Giles 
			Letcher II since I have absolutely no document or deed or anything 
			to support Giles Letcher II's existence in the colonies or in 
			Virginia before about 1741.  
			 
			SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: 
			 
			please process this with your copy below that we are descended from 
			both of nicholas perkins III marriages to elizabeth harding and mary 
			burton since i failed to note that since giles letcher I's wife 
			elizabeth perkins was the daughter of nicholas perkins IV and sarah 
			childers and that nicholas perkins IV was the son of nicholas 
			perkins and mary burton. elizabeth perkins father was who i am 
			referring to as nicholas IV. sarah perkins mother of hannah hughes 
			was daughter of nicholas III. nicholas III's mother was jane 
			irondonger (I have much more on her parentage) and nicholas III 
			first wife elizabeth harding's father was constantine harding. 
			nicholas II has unidentified wife and his father nicholas I was son 
			of arthur perkins whose wife was elizabeth kymball whose father was 
			nicholas kymball. nicholas perkins III second wife mary burton 
			(mother of nicholas IV) was daughter of lydia fry and john burton 
			son of robert burton of longfield and mary knowles (have lots more 
			on this since mary giles harding hughes was daughter of william 
			giles and bethenia knowles and she was the daugher and heir of capt. 
			john knowles of jamestown--also see newell noel noles). nicholas 
			IV's wife sarah childers is daughter of abraham childers I and jane 
			anne howard--jane anne's father was john howard b 1590 d 1660 and 
			abraham's father was william sr the immigrant 1622-1679 and his wife 
			was dame anne ramsden; william sr the immigrant's father was william 
			childers d. 1648 married to anne webster and his father was hugh 
			childers 1500-1571 married to maude _____. thomas hughes sr was 
			edward married to elizabeth skiffen anderson and his father was rees 
			hughes sr (possibly richard). philaritie woodward giles (married to 
			john giles)--she had an illegitimate daughter jane with william 
			johnston/johnson before her marriage to john giles was consummated. 
			her father was thomas woodward sr who was 1st surveyor general of 
			north carolina and remained assay master to the mint under charles I 
			and did not give up that appointment even after coming to virginia; 
			his father was thomas and the woodwards and the smiths and nathaniel 
			bacon are intermarried. the hardings herein listed are direct 
			descendants of the scottish clan/house of bueccleuch and are listed 
			as such in a genealogy that i have on the hardin/harding family 
			which includes them. also giles letcher has involvement with ware 
			family. somewhere the ware and turpin families that adjoin giles 
			letcher property are also on my father's genealogy, possibly 
			key--can't remember.  
			 
			Since Mary Giles Harding Hughes (or perhaps a sister, Bethenia 
			Giles) might be the mother of Giles Letcher II, then the following 
			genealogy for her is as follows: father was William Giles b. 1650 
			and d. 1728-9 Henrico co married to Bethenia Knowles b. 1669 d. 1742 
			whose father was Capt John Knowles of Jamestown b. 1612 d. 1685 and 
			will was witnessed 1676 by John and Robert Burton--he may have been 
			born 1629-30; William Giles was son of John Giles d. 1708 and 
			Philaritie Woodward b. 1628; John's father was Jonathan Giles b. 
			1603; Philaritie's father was.... 
			 
			SEE HANNAH HUGHES FOR THE COMPLETION OF THIS NOTE 
		
  
		Marriage 
		1Hannah 
		Hughes b: ABT 1720 in 
		Henrico Co., VA
		
			
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				ID: I01051
				Name:
				Hannah Hughes 
				1
				Sex: F
				Birth: ABT 1720 in 
				Henrico Co., VA
				Reference Number: 
				1051
				Note: 
				 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stevensp&id=I01051 
				
					CONTINUATION OF HOWARD 
					LETCHER >howardletcher@hotmail.com< 25 JUL 2008 EMAIL SHOWN 
					UNDER HANNAH'S HUSBAND: 
					 
					.... Thomas Sr born 1600 d. 1677 married to Katherine. And 
					the father of Thomas Harding married to Mary Giles was 
					Thomas Harding b. 1630 d. 1689 and was married to Mary Berry 
					b. 1666-91 and died 1715-17??. I also have a document 
					showing Martin Key and Giles Letcher II involved in some 
					transaction in 1650. Back to Capt John Knowles b. 1612 d. 
					1685 married to Mary Broadnax b. 1620 d. 1685 whose father 
					was Thomas Broadnax the Immigrant 1592-1658 married to 
					Elizabeth Taylor 1596 - ?, daughter of John Taylor Lord of 
					Shadockhurst 1570- ? married to Elizabeth Chute 1530 - ?. 
					Finally, in 1741 (the first appearance of Giles Letcher II), 
					James Wade (Ware, Ward), Giles Letcher of Henrico Parish 
					land bounded by Hazel Ware and Henry Ware (Ward, Wade) James 
					Wade sold remainder to Strangeman Hutchins in the folk 
					(fork) of Tuckahoe Creek adjoining Leonard Henley, John 
					Barnet Jr., Giles Letcher, Henry Ware. Giles Letcher II died 
					before 2 Aug 1779 in Henrico co.  
					 
					i am including these two emails from Patricia Pope Matson 
					below who just sent them to me regarding Giles II and Hannah 
					Letcher's ownership of a tavern in Goochland co. note the 
					Jefferson and Lewis reference--both these individuals are 
					relatives of the Letchers via the ware or branch families--i 
					will have to provide that connection at a later date: 
					 
					hello Howard 
					In the Thomas Lewis Journal it is only referred to as the 
					"Letcher Tavern" and the court records do not show a name 
					for the tavern. The Tavern is in Goochland County. I have an 
					early map of the county borders of VA and it shows that 
					Goochland was originally a huge county but slowly decreased 
					in size. The map starts in 1585 and shows the formation of 
					the first county in 1641. Goochland was formed between 1731 
					and 1740. By 1741 it had been cut back to basically the size 
					it is today, Albermarle was cut out at that time.  
					Like you I have a copy of the story regarding the business 
					in Petersburg that supposedly burned. I have not been able 
					to confirm that story, I'm still looking. 
					Here is the information I have on the very early history of 
					the Hughes Family. I have not documented this information 
					"The progenitor of the American Branch of the family was 
					Giles Letcher, whose mother, of Welch descent was a Miss 
					Giles before her marriage. Giles Letcher came to the United 
					States when a youth from the north of Ireland and settled in 
					VA, first at Richmond and later in Goochland County. His 
					wife was Hannah Hughes, a descendant of the Welch family of 
					that name. Powys castle ancient seat of the Hughes family is 
					still standing, and is one of the few old castles in Wales 
					that is still as a home. It is one mile from Welshpool in 
					Montgomery County, in the north of Wales" 
					"The Letcher chart gives the following as the Hughes Family, 
					aristocratic ancestry of Hannah Hughes. The Hughes deduce 
					through the Barons of Kymmer-Yn-Edeunion, and the royal 
					house of Powys, a genealogy of 28 descents, transmitted in 
					common with the lineage of the monarchs of North Wales and 
					South Wales, in the annals of the Cymri as the Egbert of his 
					race, who inherited the several kingdoms of North Wales, 
					South Wales and the Powys, became King of all Wales in 643. 
					There is more and I will happily share it with you if you do 
					not already have the info. This history was compiled by 
					Samuel Houston Showell.  
					There is a record of a land purchase by Giles Letcher dated 
					Nov. 17 1741 containing 135 acres on the North bank of the 
					James River in Goochland County some 35 miles west of 
					Richmond. This deed is recorded in Goochland Court House on 
					page 504 of Liber 3 of Deeds. He supposedly bought other 
					land later, the last record of purchase was dated November 
					6, 1747  
					 
					Let me know what other information you are looking for Pat 
					 
					Hi 
					I have Giles Letcher married to Hannah Hughes daughter of 
					James Hughes in the early 1700's. One of their children was 
					Stephen Giles Letcher who married Elizabeth Perkins in 1767. 
					The Douglas Register lists the following children born to 
					Stephen Giles Letcher and Elizabeth Perkins in Virginia: 
					Benjamin Letcher Baptized Nov. 22, 1767: John Letcher 
					baptizedDec. 19, 1769; Stephen Giles baptized April 1, 1771; 
					Mary baptized April 1778. Other records indicate they had 
					another daughter named Elizabeth Brown Letcher who married 
					David Logan McKee in KY. and a son named Robert Perkins 
					Letcher who became Governor of KY in 1840. My direct line 
					comes down from Giles Letcher and Hannah Hughes to Stephen 
					Giles Letcher and Elizabeth Perkins to my 3rd gr. 
					grandmother Elizabeth Brown Letcher McKee.  
					I have a partial copy of a book entitledOur Pioneer 
					Ancestors it covers the following families who intermarried: 
					Hynes, Chenault, Dunn, McKee, Anderson, Taylor, Finley, 
					Letcher and Houston families. The book was written by Emma 
					Hynes Riggs and Henry Earle Riggs in Ann Arbor Michigan in 
					1941.  
					When I visited Goochland County, VA last year I found 
					information in Court Records that showed that Giles Letcher 
					and his wife Hannah Hughes owned a tavern in Goochland 
					County starting in 1744 through 1749. Giles Letcher used 3 
					different bondsmen. I found the original reference to this 
					Tavern in a Journal kept by Thomas Lewis when he and Peter 
					Jefferson did the survey work on the Fairfax Line in 1746. 
					Thomas Lewis commented that they were looking forward to 
					staying one night at the Letcher Tavern. Then I found the 
					Court Records verifying that information The Journal is 
					available at the Library of VA in Richmond and at the New 
					England Historical Genealogical Library in Boston, MA. There 
					are other copies, just go on OCLC and type in subject Thomas 
					Lewis Fairfax Line Survey and your zip Code and that site 
					will give you the location of other libraries that have the 
					journal. 
					This family also produced Governor John Letcher of VA in 
					1860 and eventually Sam Houston.  
					Stephen Giles Letcher was given the contract by Garrard 
					County, KY to build the first Court House and Jail. they 
					were very influential in Garrard County KY.  
					You seem to have considerably more information on Giles 
					Letcher and Hannah Hughes than I do, Thanks for sharing. Let 
					me know if you can use other information on the Letcher 
					Family. I know one of Giles Letcher and Hannah Hughes lost a 
					son in the Revolutionary War. 
					Patricia Pope Matson 
					Pat 
  
				
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