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Some of the places and names in the lineage, may someday
prove to be of our Robert White Sr's linesage, of Union Co Sc.

Hi Mike,

I'm searching records as always on our White line(s) and. as always I have questions about possible connections to yours.

I think I've updated you but, if not, we've found our Vincent's father and know the name of his grandfather and at least 2 uncles & 1 aunt....AND possibly either another son or brother of his grandfather, which is the one that might interest you.

There is a William White who witnessed either the 1760 deeds in which our Robert White SR gave land to his sons Samuel & JOHN (Vincent's dad) & a son in law, John Tuten or the 1764 deed (both in Craven Co) when John sold the land that his father deeded him.

We found another earlier land transfer to another son in law, Thomas Davis who m. Mary White (who by the way, had a daughter who had 3 out of wedlock kids by a Jacob RHODES....either of your intermarried Rhodes come from the Robeson Co, NC area because this daughter finally married an Oswald and ended up in GA). However, we have NOT found any land transfers between Robert SR and this William White, which could mean he's a brother and not a son.

1) The William White who d. 1807....do you have any idea when he showed up in SC? OR where he was before SC?

2) Did you know that there was a Stephen White mentioned as the Dobbs Co registar as early as 1738? I also found that there was a Stephen & William White in Granville Co but don't know if they are the same ones that I found in Dobbs Co.

Abstracts of The Wills and Estate Records of Granville County North Carolina 1746-1808 by Zae Hargett Gwynn –
Published by Joseph W. Watson, 1973

The same General Assembly of 1746 that created Granville County also created Johnston
County and St. Patrick’s parish from all that part of old Craven County lying northwest of
the present Jones, Craven, and Pitt County lines.

Source: Kinfolks of Granville County North Carolina 1765 – 1826 by Zae Hargett
Gwynn – Published by Joseph W. Watson, 1974.
http://ajlambert.com/denny/rcrdgcnc.pdf

Pg. 74
61- WOODSON DANIEL deeds negro to ROBERT PAUL, proved by ROBT. REED.
WILLIAM HUNT proved deed of gift from JNO. POTTER to JAS. STUART for negro.
ROBERT MALONE proved deed from ROBERT BEVILL to ROBERT SANDIFORD
for 154 acres. EDMUND TAYLOR, SR. deeds to EDMUND TAYLOR 1500 acres.
ZACHARIAH HIGGS proved deed from JOHN DUNKIN to HENRY LANGFORD for
80 acres. JOHN WILKERSON to WM. BAILEY, JR., 186-1/2 acres. FRANCIS
SEARCY proved deed from STEPHEN WHITE to JOSHUA HAYES for 100 acres.
THOMAS THOMASON to HARDY REAVES, 200 acres. AMBROSE JONES, permit
for grist mill across Aarons Creek - - he owning land on both sides of creek. HNERY
ODANIEL vrs. PHILLEMON WHITE and JAS. GILL.

3) Ever heard of a John Plowman White? I ask because he's got an interesting travel history (and you have an intermarried Plowman, I noticed). He was the grandson of Capt John Plowman thru his daughter Mary (m. a John White, I think). He is referred to as "infant son, John Plowman White, of Mary White" in the 1717-1721 probate records of John Plowman. There is an early will that John Plowman was the executor of, and witnesses were John White & Mary White, so John White may have been her husband.

By the 1740's, he's mentioned in at least one deed as John Plowman White, trapper OF CRAVEN Co and there are several transactions for him in the early Craven & Dobbs Co, NC, most listed as "John P White".

What is really interesting is that he shows up in GRANVILLE CO by at least the 1746 tax list. He also ended up in .........EDGEFIELD CO, SC. Who knows maybe he's your Robert's dad!

Below is most of what I've found, with the links, in case you want to try to contact those that are from researchers. I tried to put them in as close to date order as was possible and separated each transcription from different sources with a line of ***********.

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Message Board Post:
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=227&p=localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.isleofwight

"My Whites seem to go back to a John White, b. circa 1660, who migrated from ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VA to what eventually became Bertie County, N.C. on 10-18-1701." "This is according to 'New World Immigrants' by Tepper." " I am citing a work entitled 'The Lee & White famlies of Bertie, Chowan, Hertford & Periquimans counties, N.C. 1660-1983 by a Joseph Britton Lee." "The NC Gen Soc advises that Mr. Lee compiled this work, furnished a copy to them and simply vanished." "I cannot find him."

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Thomas Ashley & Ann PLOWMAN - Bertie Co, NC
http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Rayner/ashleyt2.htm

1677 - from the VA Northumbria Collection which includes Lancaster County portion of VA Colonial Abstracts - Thomas Ashley witnessed a deed from Smith to White on 20 March 1677/78.

1721 - 1 July John Plowman, gen. Chowan Precinct 4 Aug 1721 before Charles Eden. John Plowman White infant son of Mary White-land called Horse Meadow where I now live, land called Cambridge with reversion to John Plowman Ashely.

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Eastern North Carolina Digital Library
http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/historyfiction/fullview.aspx?id=gra

ABSTRACT OF NORTH CAROLINA WILLS COMPILED FROM ORIGINAL AND RECORDED WILLS IN THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE
BY J. BRYAN GRIMES SECRETARY OF STATE

PUBLISHED UNDER AUTHORITY OF THE TRUSTEES OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES
RALEIGH: E. M. UZZELL & Co., STATE PRINTERS AND BINDERS. 1910.

WHALTONE (Walton??), THOMAS. Chowan County.

May 8, 1719. June 8, 1719. Wife: ANNE, of King and Queen County in Virginia. All estate is left to wife and seven children, not named. Executor: JOHN PLOWMAN. Witnesses: AB. COKBURNE, JOHN WHITE, MARY WHITE. Proven before Governor CHARLES EDEN. Impression of what appears to be cherub with wings on seal.

PLOWMAN, JOHN. Chowan County.

July 1, 1721. August 4, 1721. Legatees: JOHN PLOWMAN WHITE (plantation and seven slaves), THOMAS LOVICK, MARY WHITE, JOHN PLOWMAN ASHLEY, GOVERNOR EDEN, JOHN LOVICK, NICHOLAS CRISP, ISAAC HILL (last-named three persons appointed Executors). Witnesses: JAMES CASTELLAW, JAS. WINRIGHT, J. CABB. Proven before CHARLES EDEN.

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Bertie Co, NC Deed Books A-H 1720-1757
by Mary Best Bell 1963, Southern History Press
http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie/deeds/herring.txt

B  223  AMBROSE AIRES & WIFE,  MARY WHITE to THOMAS POWELL,4/8/1727
             15 barrels of pitch for 178a ajoining land formerly COL. ROBERT WEST's called 
             "New Market" on
 Cashay
 swamp. wit: SAM & ANN HERRING. May court, 1727.  
             Col. Rbt West by virtue power of att. acknowledged in open court.

F 445  JOHN PLOWMAN WHITE of Craven Co. trader, to THOMAS RYAN
           1/3/1741-2; 200lbs for 640a by patent dated 10/6/1717 to Capt. JOHN PLOWMAN 
           [see 1721 entry above] and coming to JOHN PLOWMAN WHITE by will, including 
           Beaver Dam Islands called Norwich, ajoining JOHN HERRING. wit: JAMES McLAUGHLAND, THO.
 
         
  WILLIAMSON,  GRIFFITH POWELL. Nov. court 1742.

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1746 Granville Co, NC Tax List
http://files.usgwarchives.org/nc/granville/court/maseytax.txt

John Plowman White
Richard White
Nickless [Nicholas] White
Wm White

1749 Granville Co, NC Tax List
http://files.usgwarchives.org/nc/granville/court/tax1749.txt

A Least of Tithes taken by Lemuel Lanier for the 1749

William White            |1|
John Plowman White   |2|
Nicholas White            |1|

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http://genforum.genealogy.com/ray/messages/12535.html

CEDAR CREEK SOUTH OF TAR RIVER

D: 407 thru 409 Oct.26- Oct 26, 1751- grant to John Plowman White of Granville Co. NC, for 580 acres in Granville Co NC on both sides of Cedar Creek at Thomas RAE’s Corner. (John Plowman White sells this land in to Samuel Benton, Jan 29, 1752, who already lives same place-Thomas RAE’S Corner, a branch called France. (B:27-29)

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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=7213&id=I25828

1753: LAND-PURCHASE: Deed B-257 Granville County 4 Dec 1753 Samuel Benton, Esquire of Granville County to John Green of same, 300 acres (part of larger tract granted to John Plowman White on 6 Oct 1751), beginning at Thomas Ray's corner, Witnesses John Thornton and John Bowie.

1758: LAND-SALE: NCGRAN-DE C, p. 579 John Green of Granville County to Nathan Thomas of same, 160 acres joining John Green, William White. Witnesses: John Pope and John McKisock

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Warren Co, NC Deed Book 2
http://www.patch.net/deeds/db5-2.html

DB-5, page 167. 20 January 1775. WILLIAM WHITE to RICHARD WHITE, both of Bute Co. 100 Pds. Va. money for 420 A. in Bute Co. on BS Cedar Creek, to Francko Branch, adj. RAY & NATHAN THOMAS, part of a grant, 26 Oct. 1751, to JOHN PLOWMAN WHITE. Wit: JOHN ROBINSON, WILLIAM WHITE, MARK WHITE, Proved by JOHN ROBINSON, Bute February Court 1775, BEN McCULLOCH, C.C. Reg: 6 April 1775, by JAMES JOHNSON, P.R.

DB-5. page 187. 3 July 1773. CHARLES WHITE to AMASA PALMER, both of Bute Co. 18 Pds. Va. money for 90 A. in Bute Co., where 1 now live & part of the tract where sd. PALMER lives, adj. SAMUEL WALKER & COL. PHILLEMON HAWKINS. Wit: JOHN HARRIS, JOHN COLEMAN, LUCY SWANN. Proved by JOHN HARRIS, Bute February Court 1775, BEN McCULLOCH, C.C. Reg: 8 April 1775, by JAMES JOHNSON, P.R.

DB-5, page 225. 14 December 1774. JEREMIAH BUSH & SARAH, his wife, to CAJABETH WHITE, all of Bute Co. 45 Pds. Va. money for 159 A. in Bute Co. on ES Sixpound Creek, excepting one acre at Bush's Mill, formerly property of JOHN BUSH, father of JEREMIAH BUSH, adj. HAWKINS & NATT. Wit: THOMAS MILLER,SR., THOMAS MILLER,JR. Proved by THOMAS MILLER, Bute February Court 1775, BEN McCULLOCH, C.C. Reg: 15 April 1775, by JAMES JOHNSON, P.R.

DB-5, page 258, 6 May 1775. NATHAN THOMAS to BENJA. WRIGHT, both of Bute Co. ll8 Pds. Procl. money for 200 A. in Bute Co. on BS Brandy Creek, adj. JOHN GREEN & WILLIAM WHITE, part of a tract where sd. THOMAS formerly lived. Wit: MICHAEL DENT, BENJA. MORGAN. Proved bY MICHAEL DENT, Bute May Court 1775, BEN McCULLOCH, C.C. Reg: 15 June 1775, by JAMES JOHNSON, P.R.

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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=moseley2&id=I322

I believe the elder Wm [Moseley] disappears around 1773 from Edgefield Co. at
which point he has sold his 300 ac headright on Nobles (Dry) Creek to
James Adams (see below). The 300 ac headright indicates that this Wm
had 4 children (George, Benj. Robt D and Selah) and not likely to be
his son who m. Sarah Muse and who was b. ~1753 according to his RW
record, who also qualified for a headright (see below). This is the
land that his bro Robert registered on his behalf in December 1772.
(Robt also registered on Wm Jr's behalf at the same time) The sale
is the last certain record I can find for him. His chlldren remained
in the area so he may have died but maybe not.

Lease and Release 28 &29 Jan 1773, Wm Moseley and Sarah his wife of
Granville SC Co to James Adams, late of Virginia, now of same county
for 250 pounds SC money, 300 acres in Granville Co [SC] on the south side
of Noble Creek adj. land granted to John Plowman White, Laurence
Rambo, plat and gtrant recored in Book LLL p. 198, ghranted 21 May
1772 to Wm Moseley. Wm Moseley (+) (LS), Sarah Moseley (M) (LS).
Wit: Chrimas Ray, Thomas Adams, Isaac Ray (*+) Proved in 96th
District 3 July 1773 before LeRoy Hammond, J. P. by the oath of Thos
Adams. Recored 24 Aug 1775.
SC Deed Book S-4 p. 244-249
(NB: I don't know what the significance of (+), (LS) and (M) but they
are not "marks" as they appear over and over in these deed books and
I can't find any explanation for them. LS may mean 'place of the
seal' )

1775 to Benjamin Harry, lying in Granville Co [SC]. now Edgefield [SC], on
Nobles Creek adj. lands to Lawrence Rambo and John Powman
(Plowman) White. Wit. B. Johnson, Geo H. Perrin. Judge Arthur Simkins
certifies relinquishment of dower by Hannah Harry, wife of Benj.
Harry, 14 Mar 1797 Proven 14 Mar 1797 by Geo. H. Perrin. etc

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Mike,

I found this deed info on your website and am wondering if you think this Robert White of Dobbs Co is connected to your line? I ask because I fairly certain that he is my Vincent White's uncle, based on additional deed (not listed on your site)info we have on Vincent's father John and his grandfather, Robert White SR. According to his Obit, this Robert White (Jr) would have been born about 1736 and he died in the early 1800's.

Robert White JR witnessed the sale of my Vincent's father, John White's land to Jeremiah Prichard, in 1764. The last record we have of Vincent's grandfather, Robert White SR is in 1760, when he deeded land to sons, John White, Robert White JR and son in law, John Tuten/Tuton (daughter may be, Hannah, as that was wife's name, listed in John Tuten's Will).

The Craven Co deeds below that are dated in the 1740's would have to be Robert White Sr's, (the grandfather of my Vincent White's). Based on birth years of his known children (1730's up to 1740's) we believe this Robert SR was likely born from 1690 up to possibly as late as 1710. Robert White SR, Robert White JR and a William White are listed as early as in the 1750's on a militia list for Craven Co. and there are a William & Samuel White on other records in Craven Co, that are too early to be the White's that came from MD (Samuel, Benjamin & Whichcote/Whichcoat White)

Since we are fairly certain that this Robert White is our Robert White's son, Robert JR, is it possible that your Robert may come from the William White? I suspect that William White is either a brother (along with a Samuel White) or both William & Samuel may be also sons of Robert SR (haven't found enough records to tie down their age/birth years).

Robert SR's children were born in the 1730-1740's, however, if William is a brother, he could be your Robert's father....which might account for why we seem to always run into our two families, a lot!

Do you think this William Whitehead might be yours, as well?

Faye

http://www.white-family.com/nc_land_patents_1735_1775.htm

Colony of North Carolina 1735-1764 Land Patents:

Crown to: Gabriel Johnston, Royal Governor Patent Book 5

3093 - p.279 - Robert White - Walter Lane - 21 Jun 1746 - 270 acres in Craven Co., on the North Side of Trent River and on the South branch of Vine Swamp, joining the Swamp and Robert White.

3200 - p.302 -- Robert White - 20 Apr 1745, 120 acreas in Craven Co. on the south branch of the Vine Swamp, joining Mr. Lake ? and the Swamp.

Colony of North Carolina 1765-1775 Land Patents:
(by Margaret M. Hofmann)

Crown to: William Tyron, Royal Governor Patent Book 20

2035A-p.505 -- Robert White - 16 Dec 1769 - 150 acres in Dobbs on the South side of the Vine Swamp, joining Anthony Gilbert, Davis Corner [My Note: may actually be surname "Coomer"], and (a point) near Barn Hill Pocoson.

Crown to: Josiah Martin, Royal Governor Patent Book 25.

7448 - p.64 -- Nathan Bryan - 4 Mar 1775 - 250 acres in Craven and Dobbs, joining Walter Lane (Now Thomas Bryan), Robert White, and land Bryan?? bought of Prichard.[same Jeremiah Prichard who bought land of John White's in 1764, that was deeded to him by his father, Robert White SR, in 1760?].

7561 - page 100 -- Robert White, JR. 4 March 1775 - 19 acres in Dobbs on the Vine Swamp, joining Calverts corner and Tooties corner.

Colony of North Carolina 1765-1775 Land Patents:
(by Margaret M. Hofmann)

Crown to: William Tyron, Royal Governor Patent Book 18

219 page 174: John Kinsey 28 October 1765 - 150 acres in Dobbs on a branch of Tuckahoe called Joshua's branch, joining Lucey Kinsey and (a point) near William Whitehead.

Note added 10/22/2013:

note on John Plowman White by Jack White:
jackhwhite120@verizon.net

"I had researched John Plowman White of Bute Co, who migrated there from Chowan and Craven County around 1746. Turns out he later migrated down to Edgefield Co, SC. Much of his Bute Co plantation ended up in the hands of a William White -- most likely the son of Lt. Richard White who died at the Battle of the Monangahela during the French and Indian War. That William is one of my possible candidates as the father of Cajabeth White, although not the most likely one."

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ROBERT WHITE, FATHER OF CAJABETH?

Theory proposed by: Jack White
jackhwhite120@verizon.net

A review of the available records in Mecklenburg Co, VA and Granville, Bute and Warren Co, NC, indicates that it is plausible that the father of Cajabeth (aka Cadbreth, Cade or Cader) White, may have been Robert White of Granville and Mecklenburg Counties.

Cajabeth first appears in the old Bute Co tax list of 1766, residing with his brother William. No father is listed, perhaps because the father was already exempt from poll taxes due to age. Throughout the 1770s and 1780s Cajabeth is shown in numerous Bute Co documents, apparently as head of his own household, living along the northern edge of modern day Warren Co in the vicinity of the Bush, Jackson and Mothershead families. He signs the 1776 Oath of Allegiance for Bute Co and the 1779 petition to form Warren Co. By 1790, he is listed in the census as head of household, with one additional male over 16, one male under 16, eight females and three slaves. I believe these additional males are the oldest son, Robert, and his younger son, John. One of the women counted is most likely Ann Bush White, Robert’s wife. (No Robert White is shown as head of his own household in this geographic area, supporting the view that he was living with his father.)

The records for Granville Co prior to 1766 – when Cajabeth was living in Bute Co – are spotty; but among the records available I have not found a Robert White. Thus, it is possible that he was living in Bute Co with his sons, Cajabeth and William. By 1778, however, a Robert White is found in Granville Co taking the Oath of Allegiance, residing in the Country Line District, which abutted Mecklenburg Co, VA. (There is also an Isaac White – a name that reappears several generations later in our White line.) There is no Robert listed in the 1790 census for Granville Co. I believe it is possible that sometime between 1778 and 1790, this Robert moved out of the county.

In fact, beginning in 1782, a Robert White can be found living in adjacent Mecklenburg Co, VA. He appears regularly in the tax records through 1790, residing in the lower district of Mecklenburg Co (in those years in which there are two districts). From 1786 through 1791 there is a second Robert White as well, residing in the upper district. After 1791, no Robert White is found in either district of Mecklenburg Co. But in 1795 – and only in that year – Cajabeth is listed in the lower district of Mecklenburg Co. In that same year, Cajabeth purchases land in Rockingham Co and resides there until his death around 1800, when he bequeaths his farm to Robert (presumably the eldest son).

It is worth noting as well that in 1782 there are several families with the last name Culbreath or Cutbreath. Could this surname have been adopted as a first name for our man Cadbreth? And could it provide further evidence of Mecklenburg Co roots?

Can we make a case from this record that Cajabeth’s father was Robert? It certainly seems plausible. We can start with the fact that Cajabeth named his oldest son Robert. Second, we know that a Robert was living in the northern part of Granville Co in 1778, while Cajabeth was living to the east along Six Pound Creek in the northern part of adjacent Bute (later Warren) Co. (Vance County was formed much later from parts of Granville and Warren Counties. At this point it isn’t clear to me where in present-day Granville or Vance Counties the “Country Line District” would have fallen.) A Robert is living in the southern part of Mecklenburg Co by 1782, the earliest tax list that I have, in the company of several families named Culbreath or Cutbreath. Finally, Cajabeth briefly moves into the southern half of Mecklenburg Co in 1795, several years after Robert ceases to appear in the county’s records. The delay in arriving in the county may have been due to the probate process for Robert’s estate. Unfortunately, no wills, estate papers, or deeds for Robert have been located in the records of Mecklenburg Co.

If this conjecture is correct, then we can track Robert living in Bute County in 1766, moving to Granville Co by 1778, and then north into Mecklenburg Co by 1782. Cajabeth would have been living along Six Pound Creek until he moved to Mecklenburg in 1795 and then on to Rockingham Co. Cajabeth’s sons, Robert and John, may have followed him briefly into Mecklenburg Co, but in any event appear to have been living in Rockingham and Caswell Co at Cajabeth’s death.

One final note. After 1766 it is very difficult to locate Cajabeth’s brother, William. It was a very common name among the Whites (notably, Robert much less so). On the other hand, there is a William White residing in Mecklenburg Co from 1784 until his apparent death in 1804. (A William White Jr. appears in 1789.) Could this have been Cajabeth’s brother, William? We know only that he had at least two other sons, Larkin and Edward, and that he owned from three to six slaves during these years.
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