Robert White Sr
Revolutionary War Veteran - Served 6 yrs per Obituary          Grandson:" Grandfather Vigorous Veteran"
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(est. from tombstone date, age calculator = 27th Jan)
Born: 9 Jan 1743 Near Roanoke River VA 
(In 1743 this area of Roanoke River VA was old Brunswick Co VA
Died: 21 Nov 1843 Cross Keys, Union Co SC -> Recorded in Obit. also in Church Minutes
View from Padgett's Creek Baptist Church Cross Keys Union Co SC 1999            History of the Padgett's Creek Baptist Church              Padgett's Creek Cemetery List       Union Co Heritage Book

Buried: Padgett's Crk Baptist Church Cemetery Cross Keys Union Co SC
(Robert Sr was a resident of Spartanburg Co SC 1829-1843)
Cross Keys Union SC     The Journey      Photo Robt & Milly          Robert White Sr - "The Blacksmith"            Timeline of UC SC          FindAGrave

Married 1st: abt. 1775, Granville Co NC
Mildred Whitehead  
Born: 1800 census bet. 26-45 yrs old NC
Died: 30 Nov 1807
Cross Keys Union Co SC
Lower Fairforest Baptist Church               Whitehead Webpage.. ...Known children: 12

Married 2nd: abt. 1807/1810
Elizabeth Unknown last name  
Born: 1830 Census bet. 60-70 yrs old ?? 
Died: 27 Dec 1840 Spartanburg Co SC
(1840 Census Missing) 
History of the Lower Fairforest Church          Elizabeth's research.....................No Known Children

Click here to View Larger maps of entire county

Robert White's 1st Land Purchase, Union Co SC, North of Tyger Rivers   ---   Robert's Land on Cane Creek Laurens Co SC

Text highlighted in 'Yellow' is clickable as well as the Typed 'Black' Test in Laurens Co

Go to Cedar Spring Baptist Minutes

Cedar Springs Baptist Church recorded our Robert White Sr's death

"To Locate that entry from minutes of, Nov 25, 1843 below; "from the
very top count down 7 lines, look out to the extreme right, for date."

Source: Vol IV - Church Book - Feb 1819 - Oct 1893,
Spartanburg main Library. Also, make note death
date of 21 Nov 1843, the Obituarty states 20 Nov 1843.

This page also records an entry for Samuel White & Johnson Coggins
Saml is the son of Wm White, decd, Johnson married Saml's sister Jane.
Samuel being the Grandson of our Robert White Sr.

Warren talks about his father and grandfather of 100 years..."Vigorus Veteran"...

There is a Page 2 - Click here to Download or View PDF File

Typed Copy:

Source:
The Article came from the "Georgia Newspaper Project, at the University of Georgia Libraries", Athens GA
https://www.libs.uga.edu/gnp

News from "The Cartersville Express" (formerly: Standard & Express)
  The Cartersville Express
   Cartersville, Georgia
   May 13, 1875, Page 3 Col 2 bottom

Our Merchants
Comments on the Trade Interest of Carterville
Sketches of the following merchants: Johnson & Curry, C. S. Alexander
http://gabartow.org/News/CE/newsCE.1875.0513.shtml

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Page 3, Col 2, bottom

Cartersville, Georgia,
"Standard and Express",
May 13, 1875, Page 3:
 
     Our esteemed fellow-citizen, T. Warren White, stopped a few
minutes to chat with us, on Monday last. He informed us that he had
just received a letter from his father, who lives near Spartanburg,
S. C., and who is now beyond his ninety-first year. The late cyclone
in that section of country struck the old gentleman's place and did
considerable damage. It blew down two very large trees upon his house,
crushing and destroying it.

     His barn was completely demolished, his carriage and buggy were broken
so as to be useless. The old gentleman says he cannot work as well as he
could some thirty years ago, and feels the loss of the property ruined by
the wind. When he was ninety-one years old he laid the worm of a rail fence
some several hundred yards long.

     Mr. White's grandfather was also a vigorous veteran. He was a blacksmith,
and on his 100th birthday took a pick in his hand, walked a mile to a shop
and worked a piece of steel on its point. He returned home (on foot) with
the pick, and throwing it upon the groundremarked "there, who of you can
do that when you are a century old?" We doubt if there are many as vigorous
old gentlemen.
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Note:
 This newspaper 'Standard and Express" came into Business Dec 1871, and
 was sold, Dec 1875, to become 'Cartersville Express', under owner C.H.C. Willingham.
 There is no copy available at the Cartersville Libraries. The actual Tapes are located at the
  Athens University Archives, Athens GA.

Notes from Mike White:

Of course the article is a gold mine, from a researchers point of view I see the following:

1. It confirms that Robert Jr and Sr are who we think they are...
2. This Warren of Bartow Co GA is definitely part of our family (with other evidence)
3. Confirms their home residence of Spartanburg.
4. It offers additional support that Robert White Sr was a VETERAN  'of the Revolutionary War'.
5. Confirms his trade as a Blacksmith.
6. Confirms he was still physically and mentally together at 100 years old.
7. It hints that Robert White Sr. may have been living in Spartanburg at least at 100 (1843), but was said to
    have died on a journey to Union Co SC, where his two daughters, Elizabeth and Susan still lived,
    and son Elias, who left for Texas in 1845.  Not to mention the many Grand and Great Grand children.
    I suspect but cannot prove that Robert Sr was living with Robert Jr., for a time, we have never found them
    on the 1840 census, which would have answered that question...  Sr died 1843.

Currently the Parents & Siblings of Robert White Sr are Unknown

Last Updated: April 16, 2020

Fall Line Road - Primary Trade & Migration Trail Prior to 1750
Road ran through Hanover Co VA, and Old and current Brunswick Co VA
Robert White's parents most likely used this trail to old Brunswick,
Roanoke River ran through Mecklenburg Co E. & the western part
old and new Brunswick Co VA of today. Other trails west of this
trail were to dangerous to travel with family because of Indians.
The French Indian War 1753-1763 pushed the mirgration
toward the coast, until wars end.

Granville County NC - marked to show
Country Line District with a Robert White
Robert, N. West against old Caswell Co NC pre-1791

marked Goshen District with a William Whitehead
William, near TAR river against old Caswell Co NC pre1791

The Two Above mentioned Districts existed in 1778 - during Oath of Allegiance

Notes: This theory seems logical because Robert married Wm's daughter Milly about 1775,...................
from Granville evidence the only William Whitehead in the county is listed from 1769 to 1771..................
Wm Whitehead on Militia List 1771, in 1778 he leaves Granville moves to Moon's crk in Cas-.,,...................
well County NC, just west of Granville. This is the only piece of information I've seen that places Robert......
 well near the our Whitehead family, in the time frame of Robt's marriage to Milly, and near the Tar River, and
 just south of Halifax & Mecklenburg Co VA, where a Robert White joins 6th VA Regt 1776. Remember Soldiers
 from the 6th VA were recruited from bordering counties of Mecklenburg Co VA, which included Granville NC....
Robt White of the 6th VA was on Furlough in May when Oath of Allegiance was taken in Granville May of 1778.
We can prove William Whitehead lived in Granville Co then Caswell then Laurens County SC via Documentations.

Main Page for all Old Granville Map:
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/ncmaps/id/3569/rv/singleitem
 

The Border area of VA & NC Ground Zero for the White's & our Whitehead's VA=Halifax Co VA <<  Mecklenburg Co VA (Roanoke River) >> Brunswick Co VA NC=old Caswell Co NC before 1791<<  old Granville Co NC  >>  old Edgecomb Co NC The Dan River meets the Staunton river merge into the Roanoke river in Mecklenburg Co VA

(old 1871 letter by Robert's grandson Isaac Murphy, "says ...Grandfather White born near Roanoke River & lived a time by Tar River...")

<<..................................................................................<<old Brunswick Co VA 1743 Yr Robert White Born>>..................................................................................>>
After 1743 the Below Counties were created from old Brunswick
Halifax Co VA.>>...(Dan River)>>................................................Mecklenburg Co VA>>..(Roanoke River)>>......................................................................Brunswick Co VA>>
1800's Map of Granville Co (edited Left west side against Caswell Co - that became Person Co in 1791, after Robt White left NC to SC)
Map of Granville Edited to show approximate areas of County Line Dist. & Goshen Dist. 1778 - Highlighted each in Yellow
including portion of TAR River that began in Eastern Caswell Co NC near border with Granville NC (pre 1791 now Person Co NC)

Modern day Caswell Co NC

Shows area that Robert White and William Whitehead
had Lands in 1780's, Robt on Hogan's Creek and
William Whitehead on both Hogan's & Moon Creeks
(1786 NC Census Robt & William - 2 farms from each other)

Some Research in Progress below

Why do I/We think this Robert White of Caswell County NC is our Robert?

In 1788 when Robert arrived in Union Co SC, the whole area was called 96th District SC.
When old 96th was split up, Robert ended up in Union District, his father in law in Laurens Co,
others in Newberry Co, etc, all boarding each other. In 1814 Robert sold his land along Cane Creek in Laurens Co.

"See Current Status of Robert White Sr Research above"

Last update Feb 22, 2018

Click the highlighted Links below to view the evidence in detail - Use BACK ARROW to Return Here

1.  Isaac Murphy Letter of 1871
     "Grandfather was born near the Roanoke River VA and lived a time along the Tar River NC"
     Both the Roanoke and Tar touched and ran through Old Caswell Co (prior to 1791), when
     Person Co was created from Caswell, a Robert White and William Whitehead were there until 1788.

2.  William Whitehead, father-in-law to Robert White Sr, in his Will names his oldest child daughter, Milly
     as "Milla White".  He lives in Laurens Co SC, on Cane Crk, our Robt had land on Cane Crk also, sold 1814.
     Laurens and Union were Old 96th Dist where Robert arrived in 1788.  The counties of Laurens
     and Union are next to each other, in Union's southern west corner, 1825 map of Union shows an area called
     "White" this is after our White's who lived in this area, and most of the families. we married into are there...
     Have not found a land purchase by Robt in Laurens, could be land Milly inherited from her father?
     As Milly White died in 1807, Wm Whitehead her dad, in 1805, Robert would have to dispose of the land.
     On This 1814 Deed sale, Wm White, son of  Robert Sr, and son-in-law, Lewis Rhodes were witnesses.
     The sale was to Charter Nichols (Nickles), he was the Estate Administrator to Wm Whitehead's Estate,
     William Whitehead 2nd married to Margaret (Marey) Nichols, in Laurens Co, may have been related to Charter?

3.  William Whitehead can clearly be tracked from Granville, to Caswell, to Laurens Co in 1788,
     via Deeds and court and tax records, census.

4.   1778 - A Robert White is living near Wm Whitehead in Granville Co NC, Wm near Tar River NC.
                Wm Whitehead appears to have been in Granville 1769-1778, near the Tar River, if this is
                 true, then our Robert White Sr may have married Milly about 1775 at her fathers home in
                 Granville and near the Tar River (per Isaac's letter, 'Robt lived a time on the Tar River'.
                 If the Robert White, just north, turns out to be ours, I would believe, they married at Fathers,
                 some of Robert's children then where born in Granville Co NC... will update in the future.
                (remember we have proven Wm Whitehead lived in Granville until 1778, then Caswell NC, Laurens SC,
                also Robert was at War for 6 years, so meets up with Wm on Hogan's Creek Caswell Co 1781?)

4.  1779 - Will of John Dennis Sr leaves Blacksmith tools to son John Jr, 'now being cared for by Robert White, now in the Carolina's (NC).
      John Dennis Jr, also moved to Caswell Co NC, I suspect this is a connection to our Robert White. John Dennis Sr lived in Halifax Co VA
      in 1779, just across the from Caswell Co NC border with VA.  John Sr was a master blacksmith and gunsmith, Robert White Sr may have
      been, at one time, indentured to John Sr., and was given the Blacksmith tools mentioned in the Will, to help start his own business,
      it took 7 to 8 yrs to become and blacksmith, and 4 years as a journeyman before you could setup shop. Parents usually indentured
      their sons at 8 or 10 years old to a master blacksmith to learn the trade.  John Dennis made his Will 1779, I would suspect, he was
      an old man and retired in 1779.  It appears our Robt White served as a blacksmith (waggoner) in the Revolution, for six 6 years.   
     
5.  Robert White of Caswell, was on the Tax records there from 1781 to 1787,  Wm Whitehead 1780-1788.

6.  1786 NC Census - was taken between 1784-1787, Caswell Co NC was turned in 1786. Listed on the
     census is Robert White and two households from his father-in-law, Wm Whitehead, on Hogan's Creek.

7.  Robert White is witness on Wm Whitehead deed formerly of Caswell Co. However, the Deed transaction was 1791
     but Ref Wm Whitehead now of Lawrence Co SC (they meant Laurens), with Wm Morgan and Robt White wit.
     so Robert is already in SC as is Wm Whitehead, Wm still had land holdings in Caswell, after he moved to Laurens.
     **important to note here that Old Caswell was up against Granville, before Person Co was formed from Caswell.
     **Note Wm Morgan - there was another Wm Morgan in Laurens arrived after ours, ours also moved to Union Co.
         he was also living a few households from Wm Whitehead & Robert White, on the 1786 NC Census.

8.  Other Caswell Families migrated to Laurens Co SC, some probably with our group, such as Hudson Berry
     Family. If you wanted to stay alive in those days, you did 'not' venture into the wilderness alone with your family...

9.  Some of the Families of Caswell, also had lived in Hanover Co VA, just a note here, I tested my DNA and
     we connect to many other surnames in Hanover VA seems to be the common denominator....Future study!

10.  I am finding that other families of Union Co SC had also come this same path... Murphy's, Jacksons, Gibson,
      Browning's, and others, families our White's married into, in Union Co SC. 

This mainly, circumstantial evidence, has lead me to formulate the THEORY of Robert White of Caswell being ours...

DNA - we need many more White's on our lineage and other branches to test, thus far, I must be the only
           White of Robert White Sr to have tested.   I matched with other White's, that are stuck on their research
           as I am, and we cannot make that connection, I feel, they may be from a sibling of Robert's etc.
DNA - Many other Surnames match with our DNA, raising many questions, hopefully, that can be answered in
            my lifetime, but the New Genetic Genealogy is just getting started and hopefully will help us in the future.

"See Current Status of Robert White Sr Research above"